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The megawad will be free when it comes out. As a cag, that's how ill go as I still have my copy of Doom. My guess is, it's going to be a real headache to play as that old 3D method didn't age well.
 
baboonfreak said:
Yep and a couple Jak Daxter Collector's editions have already sold for $460+ on the bay. Pretty crazy is an understatement.
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Must be fake purchases. How someone can sell something without it even existing is beyond me. It’s against ebays ToS. And with LRGs track record, some games never even ship.
 
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Romeo said:
Must be fake purchases. How someone can sell something without it even existing is beyond me. It’s against ebays ToS. And with LRGs track record, some games never even ship.
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Just because something sells today for said price, means absolutely nothing in regards to the deal actually being completed at some point. As stated, stuff like this goes against Ebay policies, and if the buyer decides a week before delivery he no longer wants to pay the higher prices, he won't have to. This is why I only sell an item if I have in hand, but for those who go that route, it's an issue of two consenting adults, so where's the harm?

People get bent out of shape seeing stuff like this, but in reality, very few of these orders, if any, are ever completed as shown. It's like preordering at Amazon, GS, BB etc, and then the item has a better deal at launch some place else. You cancel, and order for the cheaper price. Or you keep the order and pay the higher price, as that's a persons option as well, as many won't care either way.

I understand this is CAG, so people here often have issues with the lack of a "deal" in regards to buying some of this stuff. But if someone earned their funds, and want to pay an over inflated price for something, why should anyone else really care?

 
chrislaustin said:
Just because something sells today for said price, means absolutely nothing in regards to the deal actually being completed at some point. As stated, stuff like this goes against Ebay policies, and if the buyer decides a week before delivery he no longer wants to pay the higher prices, he won't have to. This is why I only sell an item if I have in hand, but for those who go that route, it's an issue of two consenting adults, so where's the harm?

People get bent out of shape seeing stuff like this, but in reality, very few of these orders, if any, are ever completed as shown. It's like preordering at Amazon, GS, BB etc, and then the item has a better deal at launch some place else. You cancel, and order for the cheaper price. Or you keep the order and pay the higher price, as that's a persons option as well, as many won't care either way.

I understand this is CAG, so people here often have issues with the lack of a "deal" in regards to buying some of this stuff. But if someone earned their funds, and want to pay an over inflated price for something, why should anyone else really care?
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It isn't about finding a deal or this being CAG, it's about scalpers basically being dicks and in my eyes stealing a product from real customers.

As I said, LRG should police these orders and if they want product being sold even before it's manufactured, then cancel those orders. How someone can even list a product for resale on ebay before it's even made yet is beyond me.

 
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Romeo said:
It isn't about finding a deal or this being CAG, it's about scalpers basically being dicks and in my eyes stealing a product from real customers.

As I said, LRG should police these orders and if they want product being sold even before it's manufactured, then cancel those orders. How someone can even list a product for resale on ebay before it's even made yet is beyond me.
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Why should LRG police orders of legitimate sellers who haven't broken their rules? If anything, it should be on Ebay to enforce their own rules in this instance as LRG has no policy against people buying their games and reselling them short of breaking quantity limits.

 
bojay1997 said:
Why should LRG police orders of legitimate sellers who haven't broken their rules? If anything, it should be on Ebay to enforce their own rules in this instance as LRG has no policy against people buying their games and reselling them short of breaking quantity limits.
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Yeah, this is the reality, but Ebay is like Apple or some other big business, complaints normally land on the desk of the weakest common denominator, and in this situation, that's LRG. I get numbskull's on Ebay all the time complaining when a package goes around and around the US(lost, damaged, or delayed), like I'm the one delivering it in my car. Of course USPS, FedEX, UPS are to blame, but no one is going to call them and complain, as they'll get the finger each time, and waste tons of time on the phone. So buyers look to me, as I reply and deal with issues, but it's only because I'm the low man in the equation.

The only reason an item even has the potential to sell so high, is because people buy stuff at that price. Almost every big name LRG title of the last year can be had for peanuts on Ebay, and I'll assume these titles will be no different. Games where LRG caught hell because of low runs are fast sell outs are barely above retail, while many sell below. Those talking about LRG going to bat for these issues, has missed the hundreds of thousands of arguments that have already been addressed and dealt with, and should do a search to see the outcome.

If no one buys these higher auction listings, then they will be cheap, so why not blame the end user? Which shows my point, as it's the "hooker" Vs. the "john" debate, one can't exist without the other. But both are illegal and are crimes, but often one side is dealt with differently than the other, just because of a personal view.

 
So I got Golf Story from Best Buy today and it won’t let me receive my gold coins for some reason. This is what it keeps saying “You cannot collect points for this software in the country/region currently set for your Nintendo Account”. So I’m assuming everyone from the Americas can’t receive coins then? Which doesn’t make sense since this is an English version copy.

Anyway, just wanted to see if there’s a way around this and if this has happened to anyone else before.
 
Might need to bite on a Switch Windjammers.  I bought the PS4 version back when, but definitely would prefer a Switch copy.

Also, looking at YouTube for Celeste...now I'm interested in that.

 
Romeo said:
It isn't about finding a deal or this being CAG, it's about scalpers basically being dicks and in my eyes stealing a product from real customers.

As I said, LRG should police these orders and if they want product being sold even before it's manufactured, then cancel those orders. How someone can even list a product for resale on ebay before it's even made yet is beyond me.
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It's not gonna change as long as they allow multiple copies to be bought for stuff that's this limited.

 
It always blows my mind how people get worked over stuff that happens on Ebay.  Get a grip.  You're the one who is off-kilter.  This is capitalist America and one way or another you're just jealous, or mad.

People hate Ebay.  So they bring up Ebay discussions.  Like ok??  It's your own personal deficiency that you're going to have to learn how to deal with. Would you rather camp 3-hour random spawn windows on LRG.com and miss out on even more drops? No?  Then pipe down. 

 
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So I got Golf Story from Best Buy today and it won’t let me receive my gold coins for some reason. This is what it keeps saying “You cannot collect points for this software in the country/region currently set for your Nintendo Account”. So I’m assuming everyone from the Americas can’t receive coins then? Which doesn’t make sense since this is an English version copy.

Anyway, just wanted to see if there’s a way around this and if this has happened to anyone else before.
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Same for me and the LRG direct version. Dumbasses put the wrong region version on the cart. I shouldn't be surprised at the ineptitude that let this happen. Clearly not the brightest bulbs running things.
 
nightc1 said:
Same for me and the LRG direct version. Dumbasses put the wrong region version on the cart. I shouldn't be surprised at the ineptitude that let this happen. Clearly not the brightest bulbs running things.
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Dang, that kind of sucks. I’m pretty surprised they would mess something like that up. I mean it’s not like gold points are worth that much, but it’s also nice to add to my total and eventually get a few bucks off DLC purchases.

Thanks for the reply!
 
Nothing371 said:
It always blows my mind how people get worked over stuff that happens on Ebay. Get a grip. You're the one who is off-kilter. This is capitalist America and one way or another you're just jealous, or mad.

People hate Ebay. So they bring up Ebay discussions. Like ok?? It's your own personal deficiency that you're going to have to learn how to deal with. Would you rather camp 3-hour random spawn windows on LRG.com and miss out on even more drops? No? Then pipe down.
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It's because of bottom feeders and scum that take away products from real customers. ebay is essentially an internet flea market. And they have policies to prevent scalping such as with this issue with LRG, selling a product months before it's release, before it's actually even produced.

Let's use the 500 million PS4 as an example. I planned on getting one as it went live. I was on my phone, iPad, and PC all at once, the second the add to cart button popped. I couldn't get to check out due to site overload and didn't get one, yet sure enough hundreds if not thousands popped up on ebay moments later. That is just pure unadultured trash.

 
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Romeo said:
It's because of bottom feeders and scum that take away products from real customers. ebay is essentially an internet flea market. And they have policies to prevent scalping such as with this issue with LRG, selling a product months before it's release, before it's actually even produced.

Let's use the 500 million PS4 as an example. I planned on getting one as it went live. I was on my phone, iPad, and PC all at once, the second the add to cart button popped. I couldn't get to check out due to site overload and didn't get one, yet sure enough hundreds if not thousands popped up on ebay moments later. That is just pure unadultured trash.
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Yes, that's part of why Ebay is such a great tool for collectors. It's often the only marketplace for hard to find items that may have not been sold at retail in literally decades. It also helps some people make a living or supplement their income. I honestly don't even understand what it is you are complaining about. How long must a consumer hold onto a product before it's ok to sell it? If I buy something and find out I don't want it or couldn't really afford it a day after buying it, should I be forced into a mandatory waiting period before I can sell it? The 500M units shipped out within less than a week of going up for preorder, so those listings didn't even violate Ebay policy. I mean, I am opposed to flippers and resellers more than most people, but I also recognize that there is nothing to be done and wasting resources in trying to cancel auctions or enforce rules that will do little to help consumers is not a good use of time or money.

 
Markmallow said:
Dang, that kind of sucks. I’m pretty surprised they would mess something like that up. I mean it’s not like gold points are worth that much, but it’s also nice to add to my total and eventually get a few bucks off DLC purchases.

Thanks for the reply!
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That's awful. I mean, it's not a huge deal, but still disappointing. Contemplating just going digital now and letting my BB order get cancelled. Would there even be a way for LRG to fix this?

 
Leooo0 said:
That's awful. I mean, it's not a huge deal, but still disappointing. Contemplating just going digital now and letting my BB order get cancelled. Would there even be a way for LRG to fix this?
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Looking into the dev they are AU based, so I'm guessing it's region 2 (EU) or 4 (AU/NZ). If I had accounts in other regions I'd test out trying to redeem the gold coins just to see which one did it. I'd imagine with the game having been out more than a year it might be a situation where even then you'd get no gold coins but it should at least give that message rather than the wrong region message.

I think fixing it would require Nintendo to recognize whatever region the game is in as a NA release for the cart but not the digital version. They might have to do a completely separate SKU from the digital version and publish updates for them separately.

My main issue (beyond it not being a true NA region game) is that what if the dev updates it? I know DLC for games often does not work cross regions... so will I need an account in whatever region this is from to update it if one happens? Also, is this the first time LRG has made this mistake with a Switch game or are all switch releases with screwed up regions? Whatever the case, this is one more push for me to just go digital on these small indie games. I value owning physical, but I want the region I paid for.

 
Romeo said:
It's because of bottom feeders and scum that take away products from real customers. ebay is essentially an internet flea market. And they have policies to prevent scalping such as with this issue with LRG, selling a product months before it's release, before it's actually even produced.

Let's use the 500 million PS4 as an example. I planned on getting one as it went live. I was on my phone, iPad, and PC all at once, the second the add to cart button popped. I couldn't get to check out due to site overload and didn't get one, yet sure enough hundreds if not thousands popped up on ebay moments later. That is just pure unadultured trash.
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One could certainly argue that a “real customer” is the one who is willing to pay the most for a product.
 
nightc1 said:
My main issue (beyond it not being a true NA region game) is that what if the dev updates it? I know DLC for games often does not work cross regions... so will I need an account in whatever region this is from to update it if one happens? Also, is this the first time LRG has made this mistake with a Switch game or are all switch releases with screwed up regions? Whatever the case, this is one more push for me to just go digital on these small indie games. I value owning physical, but I want the region I paid for.
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Yeah, that's my issue too. Any future updates/DLC are now screwed if you are in the American region. Which this release was supposed to be. So they paid for the ESRB to rate a non-Region 1 game?

Also, looks like Yooka-Laylee is another LRG game to have this issue.

http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/limitedrunforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5312

I wonder how many more are out there? And does LRG not care they are not releasing R1 games (if that is indeed what this is)?

 
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Josef said:
Yeah, that's my issue too. Any future updates/DLC are now screwed if you are in the American region. Which this release was supposed to be. So they paid for the ESRB to rate a non-Region 1 game?
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That's a good question actually, and has LRG addressed this issue in any way thus far? Seems like a better credit than $3 is in order for a fuck up of this magnitude, but who knows?

 
Josef said:
Yeah, that's my issue too. Any future updates/DLC are now screwed if you are in the American region. Which this release was supposed to be. So they paid for the ESRB to rate a non-Region 1 game?

Also, looks like Yooka-Laylee is another LRG game to have this issue.

http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/limitedrunforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5312

I wonder how many more are out there? And does LRG not care they are not releasing R1 games (if that is indeed what this is)?
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How would we know if there is an update that we missed?

 
nightc1 said:
Looking into the dev they are AU based, so I'm guessing it's region 2 (EU) or 4 (AU/NZ). If I had accounts in other regions I'd test out trying to redeem the gold coins just to see which one did it. I'd imagine with the game having been out more than a year it might be a situation where even then you'd get no gold coins but it should at least give that message rather than the wrong region message.

I think fixing it would require Nintendo to recognize whatever region the game is in as a NA release for the cart but not the digital version. They might have to do a completely separate SKU from the digital version and publish updates for them separately.

My main issue (beyond it not being a true NA region game) is that what if the dev updates it? I know DLC for games often does not work cross regions... so will I need an account in whatever region this is from to update it if one happens? Also, is this the first time LRG has made this mistake with a Switch game or are all switch releases with screwed up regions? Whatever the case, this is one more push for me to just go digital on these small indie games. I value owning physical, but I want the region I paid for.
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Sometimes the region of the cart doesn't have to be the same as the region of the NA account. I got Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze from Daily Steals, which is a EU copy.. and I got gold coins from that on my account which was set to NA. I wonder if the carts just aren't tied to any region.

 
Josef said:
Yeah, that's my issue too. Any future updates/DLC are now screwed if you are in the American region. Which this release was supposed to be. So they paid for the ESRB to rate a non-Region 1 game?

Also, looks like Yooka-Laylee is another LRG game to have this issue.

http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/limitedrunforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5312

I wonder how many more are out there? And does LRG not care they are not releasing R1 games (if that is indeed what this is)?
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I'm pretty sure updates/patches aren't affected by region on Switch. I just updated my JP copy of Monster Hunter XX today. Not sure about paid DLC though...I suppose you'd need a region specific eShop account? Never tried it.

This made me go back and check some of my LRG games. Thimbleweed Park, Mercenary Kings and Flinthook all look normal, but I got the region error code for Golf Story, too. I'll double check the others tomorrow and post if I find any weird ones. I generally don't care much about the points but this situation has me intrigued!
 
Equippt said:
I'm pretty sure updates/patches aren't affected by region on Switch. I just updated my JP copy of Monster Hunter XX today.
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The Capcom Belt Action Collection was the same way. No JP account, cart triggered an update as soon as it was put in.

 
Josef said:
Yeah, that's my issue too. Any future updates/DLC are now screwed if you are in the American region. Which this release was supposed to be. So they paid for the ESRB to rate a non-Region 1 game?

Also, looks like Yooka-Laylee is another LRG game to have this issue.

http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/limitedrunforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5312

I wonder how many more are out there? And does LRG not care they are not releasing R1 games (if that is indeed what this is)?
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Good find. I had done some searching but didn't find that. Seems like there is a chance the game will show up in Nintendo's system for NA and that all this worry has been for nothing.

Looking deeper, I found this thread on gamefaqs:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/76993137

This was about Mercenaries Saga Chronicles having the same problem. Someone there mentioned Victor Vran also had the issue but it cleared up about a week later. It was mentioned nagging the dev/publisher helped with another game getting fixed.

If I had twitter I'd tweet the concern and tag all of the appropriate LRG accounts. That seems to be the best way to get their attention as it's much more public. If anyone can do that, please do.

hohle said:
The Capcom Belt Action Collection was the same way. No JP account, cart triggered an update as soon as it was put in.
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That's good to know. Hopefully we aren't screwed out of updates if there are any.

If anyone has the digital version of Golf Story can you post what version number it is (I think you can see it if you press + on the game icon). It would be nice to verify both versions are the same version at least.

 
I couldn't get any coins for Flinthook but I also had a issue getting coins with Sonic Mania Plus physical edition.
So this affects more than just Limited Run Games. This also was a problem with Darkest Dungeon Ancestral Edition but was fixed.

 
OK, thanks for the input everyone.  Doesn't look like as big of a deal as I originally thought - as long as the stuff gets fixed eventually.

 
Finally got my Senran and now just got confirmation that my Bastion and Phantom Breakers as shipped!  That's like 5 orders in a months time.

 
flybrione said:
I couldn't get any coins for Flinthook but I also had a issue getting coins with Sonic Mania Plus physical edition.
So this affects more than just Limited Run Games. This also was a problem with Darkest Dungeon Ancestral Edition but was fixed.
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Didn't get coins can simply be because the game is more than a year old. Did you get the wrong region message or just the not eligible for coins message? I've had several games that were just past that first year on the market.

 
nightc1 said:
Didn't get coins can simply be because the game is more than a year old. Did you get the wrong region message or just the not eligible for coins message? I've had several games that were just past that first year on the market.
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Sonic Mania Plus physical has only been available for six months.
So I couldn't get coins on release day in July and I haven't been able too since.

"You cannot collect My Nintendo points for this software yet"

Cannot Collect Coins for Sonic Mania Plus

They have not fixed this issue either.

 
My Sonic Mania (digital) copy always did that.  Bought it very close to release.  I always figured maybe that game just didn't qualify?  I never followed up on it.  (It was one of my first Switch games, and I just didn't really know much about the coins system.)

 
Despite your PHYSICAL copy being new or newly released, the release date in regards to coins is still tied to the digital release date.

For example: Celeste was released Jan 25th of this year and by the time the Limited Run versions come out it will be 1+ years since the digital release. Doesn't matter the method of delivery (digital, physical) the release date remains the same: January 25th, 2018.
 
litepink said:
Despite your PHYSICAL copy being new or newly released, the release date in regards to coins is still tied to the digital release date.

For example: Celeste was released Jan 25th of this year and by the time the Limited Run versions come out it will be 1+ years since the digital release. Doesn't matter the method of delivery (digital, physical) the release date remains the same: January 25th, 2018.
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Sonic Mania Digital release was in August 15, 2017 while the physical release was in July 17, 2018.
There is still a month of eligibility using this theory and I was not able to receive coins for this game during the first month of eligibility. I tried to get coins on release day of the physical copy and I tried again a week later.

 
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litepink said:
Despite your PHYSICAL copy being new or newly released, the release date in regards to coins is still tied to the digital release date.

For example: Celeste was released Jan 25th of this year and by the time the Limited Run versions come out it will be 1+ years since the digital release. Doesn't matter the method of delivery (digital, physical) the release date remains the same: January 25th, 2018.
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First, my thanks to those who brought up this issue for getting me to look up my Nintendo account and discover that I have over $20 worth of points (or whatever they're called), and that those points are going to begin expiring this month. Time for some shopping!

I'm pretty sure this is not how it works. There's a separate error message for a game whose one-year redemption window has expired. I also found a couple more irregularities that contradict the "digital release=physical release" hypothesis. Overcooked, which released digitally in July 2017 and which I bought physically in March 2018--less than a year later--never let me redeem anything back when I got it, and I'm still getting the same error message now (can't redeem points for this software yet). Thimbleweed Park was released digitally last September, but I redeemed the points for it yesterday--over a year later. Maybe there's a flag for the release date in the rom or something?

LRG releases are all over the place. I tested ten different games, including Flinthook which I posted about yesterday and got wrong, and found the following:

Thimbleweed Park: 60 points

Mercenary Kings: 20 points

Flinthook: "can't redeem yet"

Slime-San: "can't collect points for this region"

Kingdom New Lands: can't redeem yet

Night Trap: 15 points

Thumper: can't redeem yet

Oxenfree: wrong region

Furi: wrong region

Golf Story: wrong region

Now, I have no desire to actually do anything with this information, but there it is. Why a grown man would spend his free time doing this is a question I will leave open to speculation.

 
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I know it's impossible, but I was hoping someone would get in touch with Namco for Ridge Racer VITA with all DLC on the cart to actually make it into a real game. 

 
Equippt said:
Now, I have no desire to actually do anything with this information, but there it is. Why a grown man would spend his free time doing this is a question I will leave open to speculation.
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I think you did this stuff because deep down you were as interested in what you actually bought. That's why I checked my Golf Story LRG-Direct version when it was brought up the BB version was the wrong region.

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Thanks.

 
How long does shipping normally take after the shipping notification was created? I received a shipping notice on the 5th, and the UPS tracking number states that UPS is still waiting for the game to reach them, anyone have a similar issue?

 
Destro14 said:
How long does shipping normally take after the shipping notification was created? I received a shipping notice on the 5th, and the UPS tracking number states that UPS is still waiting for the game to reach them, anyone have a similar issue?
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that just means LRG printed out your shipping label my dude. Doesn't mean they "shipped" it out. That takes a few days.

 
Destro14 said:
How long does shipping normally take after the shipping notification was created? I received a shipping notice on the 5th, and the UPS tracking number states that UPS is still waiting for the game to reach them, anyone have a similar issue?
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I have a slightly different situation myself. Got shipping notice on 12/4, it started tracking, but then abruptly stopped on 12/9 at a post office about 30 miles away from me. No tracking since then. I'm wondering if this is possibly lost in the mail, or sitting in a warehouse with all the other Christmas packages waiting to be delivered.

 
I’m sure there are worse examples, but I placed my first LRG order at the beginning of September and just received the first shipment from them; something I bought during the BF sale.

Based on the sporadic availability of their items, it would really be nice if they figured out how to ship orders in different configurations from how they were placed. It can’t be cost effective to keep inventory attached to a delayed release when other items are already on their way to the same address.
 
Josef said:
I have a slightly different situation myself. Got shipping notice on 12/4, it started tracking, but then abruptly stopped on 12/9 at a post office about 30 miles away from me. No tracking since then. I'm wondering if this is possibly lost in the mail, or sitting in a warehouse with all the other Christmas packages waiting to be delivered.
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Probably the latter. USPS's quality of service always dips during the holiday season because of the sheer volume of packages they get.

 
Tothoro said:
Probably the latter. USPS's quality of service always dips during the holiday season because of the sheer volume of packages they get.
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Yep, LRG uses that shipping saver crap, and that's a really cheap option, and it suffers when more higher level packages need to be delivered. Which at this time of year is everything, except for these LRG packages. LOL But if the package stays inactive for an extended period, someone may have decided for a 5 finger discount, but for those packages to sit around, it can be normal more often than not.

 
chrislaustin said:
Yep, LRG uses that shipping saver crap, and that's a really cheap option, and it suffers when more higher level packages need to be delivered. Which at this time of year is everything, except for these LRG packages. LOL But if the package stays inactive for an extended period, someone may have decided for a 5 finger discount, but for those packages to sit around, it can be normal more often than not.
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UPS Mail Innovations takes a long time because UPS takes it to specific mail points to get it into the Innovations mail stream, then trucks it by ground to a Innovations facility near the destination post office, and then the following day sends it to the post office, which then delivers it the following day after that - IF everything is working correctly.

Lots of my packages these days are sitting for days at a time between movement. Usually that means they ended up fallen behind a bench in a truck or mailing facility, or stuck at the back of a bin. They have always ended up being delivered.

 
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