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I haven't finished reading that thing about Josh... but it seems pretty in line with my first impressions of him way back at the start of all of this. IF Doug really did write that, I hope he realizes now how unhealthy that relationship was and while painful and has found better friends.
 
nightc1 said:
I haven't finished reading that thing about Josh... but it seems pretty in line with my first impressions of him way back at the start of all of this. IF Doug really did write that, I hope he realizes now how unhealthy that relationship was and while painful and has found better friends.
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Doug still seemed pretty high on Josh just a few months ago in this very thread.
At any rate, if this is genuine and these accusations are true, this really seems to confirm suspicions.
A HUGE chunk of his game collection was actually bought by the company for “research” even though this only got used that way. He spent a lot of company money buying games and building a collection room that he would spend days organizing.
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Completely unsurprising and indicative of someone who has no business running a company of this size. Using company funds for your own gain is kind of a huge deal and something that not only carries tax implications but other liability issues for separating the entity from the individual. That applies even if you’re the complete owner of a company, you have to keep that stuff separate.

Embracer not catching on to this type of thing going on when they bought the company is also wholly unsurprising given how they seemed to just go on a spending spree with little regard to the implications.
Whenever there was a possible PR disaster and a way to avoid it he wouldn’t listen. A crappy internal saying was “it’s good enough” if we could save money and cut corners then it was okay if it was passable and just pray no one took a hard look.
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I mean, are any of us surprised at all here? This is almost exactly what we’ve talked about here. Josh just doesn’t give a shit about sorting out problems, it’s not his concern. Other portions of this blog post made that abundantly clear, someone else (typically Doug it seems like) was responsible for fixing that.
 
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Yeah, the article really isn't surprising to me. Josh does actively flaunt collections, doesn't handle criticism at all, etc etc. It's a post anyone could've come out with but it does sound legit, Doug did publicly address some stuff in there at one point. Doug for his faults seemed to just be stuck on the train and the train wouldn't pull into the station to let him off. Hopefully he's holding up
 
Thomascagger said:
Y'all really need to stop giving this place money. Post from Doug

Limited Run Games and The Problems Within (Josh)

Competition and convenience, those two words best sum up what it was like to be friends with Josh for 24 years. It took years of people…
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Hey, it's me, the guy who said a long time ago that Josh keeping his collection on site was a big red flag...

Given my stance on LRG for quite some time, I'll be glad to know I was likely extremely correct on all the crap going on.

Josh being as described wouldn't surprise me. If it's by Doug, then know my criticism has been of LRG, and if true, likely about the toxicity that is Josh versus your personal ability to deal with said toxicity.

Seen toxic bosses wreck friends and families; even if this medium post is 100% false, I've personally seen this style of events unfold. The toxic individual is rarely held fully accountable, either. Life ain't fair.

I'll continue grabbing LRG stuff at the tail of a release. Or look for used copies.
 
WingsDJY said:
If Josh used corporate funds to buy a large portion of his collection “for research”, I wonder if that means those items are actually owned by Embracer Group now (as part of them owning LRG).

Guess that’s something they would have to sort out if Embracer ever got rid of Josh.
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What will happen is Josh will run off with the games and Embracer will have no idea that they were there in the first place.

We'll all point and say "Look Embracer, he's stealing your property" and no one will care.

Cutting out shitty people from your life is the ultimate lifehack. The sad part is most people don't realize they should give them the boot until they've had these people in their lives for 5, 10, 20, 30 years.
 
Vinny said:
Ugh, that's way too long to read... is the TL;DR: Josh bad?
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A bit overly reductive, but yes, claiming that Josh is a toxic individual who sees most of life as a competition to be won and measures values in those around them based upon their willing to "lose" to him so he can be a "winner."
 
People feel better when they vent about things. There are few alternatives to LRG and none that put out as many games. They are trying to do more than realistically capable of doing and that makes for a janky experience. This is the internet. Try to ignore the complaints if you are not into it.
 
I remember when LRG felt like a small, labor of love shop to "save physical games!" and I wholehearted supported them, especially as the "digital only future" talk was rising fast in the mid-2010s. I now look at the... what I'm guessing is nearly 150 LRG releases I have on the PS4 and Vita and am like "why the fuck did I buy this..?".

At least it seems like more or and more people who were at one point "digital only" and reverting to "digital might have some issues" due to all the licensing issues, ownership questions, disappearing content, modifying/censoring content, and whatnot and the digital only future doesn't seem as obvious now.
 
FuzzmeisterJ said:
People feel better when they vent about things. There are few alternatives to LRG and none that put out as many games. They are trying to do more than realistically capable of doing and that makes for a janky experience. This is the internet. Try to ignore the complaints if you are not into it.
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Some of those alternatives have proven track record of being worse than LRG and we all know of LRG many issues over the years. Be selective and buy games you want and hope you don't have to wait over two years to receive them from any of the limited game publishers.
 
Just like anything else if something isn't bring you joy or much and you're not playing these games sell them off. I do think LRG are one of the more reliable of the physical limited run manufacturers, but I also know they are very slow, have way too much on their plate, offer lots of junk in their LEs and CEs that adds little value IMHO, sometimes release buggy messes (Tomba on PC for sure although we hope it's cleaned up), and if you order from them just pretend it's like Kickstarter and know you will get your stuff someday. Stuff like the Konami collections should not be limited run, and bigger companies now use them because they have a history now and are more reliable than many other limited physical games manufacturers. I pick and choose with scrutiny now, but if something is a game I like (the Suda games recently), I'll still want those physically.

I've already cleaned out my Vita LRG releases selling a few (bit trip runner 2, la mulana, bosch rockers or something like that from a blind box) and am mainly keeping ones I like a lot (my visual novels like Fata Morgana and the Nurse Love games (I'm willing to sell these LEs though someday)). I'm old enough to know if I don't play them I generally don't want them. I'm also okay playing digital copies and selling off physical if I see fit. I did that with Alex Kidd I think it was on the PS4. I don't find any value in shrink wrapped things although for my few figures I have I'll keep the boxes and everything for them as I only display a few and don't play with those. Just me spilling my thoughts overall. People have an over buying problem, and I'm similar, so I'm just doing my best to appreciate things and get rid of things when they're not really vibing with me overall.
 
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" I do think LRG are one of the more reliable of the physical limited run things"

*Posts an entire ass paragraph about things wrong with them*
 
Yeah quite a few physical limited physical game companies are just unreliable such as SLG not being in a good place recently. Some like Fangamer, Eastasiasoft (for Asian-English releases), Nicalis (for their games) and others are just fine. None of these have the amount of licenses LRG have. It's a double edged sword for sure with LRG, but some of their licenses are just good games that people want. Just treat them like a Kickstarter and you're gold as Kickstarter and other crowd funding can be a mess for sure and take forever to come out (some things I gave money to on Kickstarter will never come out like my Sol Press Irotoridori no Sekai, of which digital keys where still given by Nekonyan (true chads)).
 
Ohhhh, so is that the reason we didn't get KoF 13 Global Match until a few months ago, even though Europe had a release last year? Now that explains a lot. KoF 14 Ultimate Edition coming up soon, guys!
 
RedvsBlue said:
Haha, funny you say that because I just came across this on Reddit:

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Ironically, a lot of that thread was people saying "I don't see what the big deal is!" or "X company is worse!" It makes me wonder what caused the sentiment to shift, or if people who do care just stopped engaging. The thread about Doug's statement had several brand new accounts being contrarian but that contingent at least didn't gain footing and it didn't seem like anything nefarious was going on in the meme thread comparatively.

Here's the link for anyone interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LimitedPrintGames/comments/1f3hsjc
 
Tothoro said:
Ironically, a lot of that thread was people saying "I don't see what the big deal is!" or "X company is worse!" It makes me wonder what caused the sentiment to shift, or if people who do care just stopped engaging. The thread about Doug's statement had several brand new accounts being contrarian but that contingent at least didn't gain footing and it didn't seem like anything nefarious was going on in the meme thread comparatively.
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The contrarians being shouted down really surprised me. Like it was blatantly obvious that they were LRG employees who wanted to anonymously mention their bad experiences with Doug too. But Doug releases all this dirt about Josh, and suddenly the whole thread is about Doug being the true hero and all we love him now? Like you don't think it's possible that BOTH of them made a lot of bad mistakes? And what's really sad/funny is that you can bet that if Josh came out right now with a bunch of dirt about Doug, suddenly everyone will be singing Josh's praises.

It reminded me of reading Julius Caesar in high school, and the part with the speeches at Caesar's funeral. The famous "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears" line. That part is just as asinine when you look at it though. First Brutus makes a big speech, and then the crowd unanimously cheers and loves him. And then immediately after Mark Antony makes a big speech, and now the crowd unanimously cheers and agrees with him instead.

Like are people really this dumb and gullible? Memories of a goldfish, that can only remember what they were told most recently? And the person "in the right" is whoever can make up the biggest sob story at the moment? I don't think I want to live on this planet anymore. Where's my rocket ship...
 
I don't know if it's so much of holding Doug up as a true hero, as it is being empathetic to him being stuck in a toxic business partnership and friendship. Hopefully him being separated from LRG helps him clear his head. And maybe it's a good thing that Josh doesn't want to be friends. Sometimes people just need a clean break and fresh start.
 
I think it's a lot more nuanced than "Josh bad, Doug good" but I don't think most nuanced conversation translates well onto Reddit or any other social media platform with an algorithm incentivizing likes/karma/whatever. But I think regardless of the nature of the conversation, multiple new accounts being made to prop up one side of the discussion is suspicious.
 
Xerox1919 said:
The contrarians being shouted down really surprised me. Like it was blatantly obvious that they were LRG employees who wanted to anonymously mention their bad experiences with Doug too. But Doug releases all this dirt about Josh, and suddenly the whole thread is about Doug being the true hero and all we love him now? Like you don't think it's possible that BOTH of them made a lot of bad mistakes? And what's really sad/funny is that you can bet that if Josh came out right now with a bunch of dirt about Doug, suddenly everyone will be singing Josh's praises.

It reminded me of reading Julius Caesar in high school, and the part with the speeches at Caesar's funeral. The famous "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears" line. That part is just as asinine when you look at it though. First Brutus makes a big speech, and then the crowd unanimously cheers and loves him. And then immediately after Mark Antony makes a big speech, and now the crowd unanimously cheers and agrees with him instead.

Like are people really this dumb and gullible? Memories of a goldfish, that can only remember what they were told most recently? And the person "in the right" is whoever can make up the biggest sob story at the moment? I don't think I want to live on this planet anymore. Where's my rocket ship...
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Showing empathy and support for Doug isn’t automatically holding him up as some perfect person. I had a whole post typed out this morning and inadvertently deleted it when trying to edit but I’ve been in a similar situation as Doug, the realization that a longtime friend was someone who wasn’t good for me. Thankfully I never had a business enterprise involved but I totally get where he’s coming from.

If the roles were reversed? I dunno, frankly the blog post confirmed a lot of my suspicions probably since around when Doug left the company which were that Josh is a bit self-centered and seems to only focus on being in the limelight. It seems like he’s the type that loves the title of CEO, but not all the work and responsibility that come with it.

Let me be clear though, I don’t know either of these people personally, it’s only the impressions I’ve had from the messages we’ve had available. I can tell you this though, things haven’t improved at LRG since Doug left which leads me to believe he wasn’t really the source of the problems and in fact it seems like he was maybe the only one concerning himself or even worrying about fixing them.
 
redrum666 said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1829519615518527542
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Also, this isn't "officially translated into English for the first time." I don't know where they got that from. This is Cybernator on the SNES, and it is very much in English. This is a re-translation, but it hardly matters since the dialogue isn't any deeper than "go here and blast the bad guys". The biggest difference I've heard of is that they added back character headshots in the dialogue boxes that were cut between the Japanese and western releases. But overall, by all accounts not much has changed in this remake, and this certainly isn't some "lost untranslated gem".
 
Xerox1919 said:
Like are people really this dumb and gullible? Memories of a goldfish, that can only remember what they were told most recently? And the person "in the right" is whoever can make up the biggest sob story at the moment? I don't think I want to live on this planet anymore. Where's my rocket ship...
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yes, people in a Twitter comments sections really are that dumb. They blow with the wind, overreact on every moment to moment reaction. They act angry for attention. that's what resonates on social media. Everything is either the best thing or worst thing ever. It's a seabed of negativity and hyper-polarized intra-reaction.

That's what happens in these ecosystems where all anyone does is farm karma or react for attention. It's ADD in text form. The good news is that it doesn't mean anything. and it's pointless to even participate.
 
Retro-bit did a SNES cartridge release of this previously, too.

Assault Suits Valken returns to SNES® consoles for massive mech action!

If you played Cybernator back in the day, you could be forgiven for not knowing that you had actually received one of the most impactful entries into the Assault Suit series. Developed by Masaya Games with a team led by producer Toshiro Tsuchida (creator of Arc the Lad and Front Mission...
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(Which LRG was a distribution partner of, but not an exclusive one)
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Assault Suits Valken: Collectors Cartridge (SNES)

Assault Suits Valken: Collectors Cartridge on SNES. This is an open pre-order for a limited time. PRE-ORDERS CLOSE ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2023 AT 11:59 PM EASTERN TIME. With the depletion of fossil fuels in the 2050s, unease within the population has morphed into anger and conflict. Territorial...
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RedvsBlue said:
Showing empathy and support for Doug isn’t automatically holding him up as some perfect person. I had a whole post typed out this morning and inadvertently deleted it when trying to edit but I’ve been in a similar situation as Doug, the realization that a longtime friend was someone who wasn’t good for me. Thankfully I never had a business enterprise involved but I totally get where he’s coming from.

If the roles were reversed? I dunno, frankly the blog post confirmed a lot of my suspicions probably since around when Doug left the company which were that Josh is a bit self-centered and seems to only focus on being in the limelight. It seems like he’s the type that loves the title of CEO, but not all the work and responsibility that come with it.

Let me be clear though, I don’t know either of these people personally, it’s only the impressions I’ve had from the messages we’ve had available. I can tell you this though, things haven’t improved at LRG since Doug left which leads me to believe he wasn’t really the source of the problems and in fact it seems like he was maybe the only one concerning himself or even worrying about fixing them.
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yea we don't know them at all. But it's really weird how every prejudice, assumption, and theory we surmised from a handful of pictures posted online, are all seemingly true. (if this blog post is indeed legitimate).

The stuff you would have guessed about them by looking at them. and the pictures and collections Josh has posted, and tweets made. He's obviously a very self-absorbed individual. All of the 'personal integrity' and sociopathic tendency red flags were right there.
 
Limited Rare should be ignored. They don't publish good games and rely on their schtick and FOMO more than any of the other outlets.

And re:#JustDougThings, I believe that empathy is warranted for someone on the receiving end of a toxic relationship, but I also don't think Doug is to Josh as Woz is to Jobs here.

Doug likely made some not so great business decisions of their own, for different reasons. And coming here to paper over them instead of showing results is one of those markers. They've been trying to fix shipping and deliveries for years upon years now. Can't tell me that's all Josh being Josh...
 
I read Doug's post with a bit of a "I know I'm not perfect either" tone, though I'll admit to being clueless whenever past stuff that 'happened' or 'went down' was mentioned as I stepped away from game buying in general for a while, so I'm really out of the loop. Sounds like a rough patch of life regardless of whom had what percent of fault where, so I at the very minimum applaud to decision to work it out in therapy. That's a great thing to do for yourself when stuff gets real, and gets real bad.

There are more serious things than this mentioned but as an anecdote this part resonates with me: The whole 'being critical about others' hours when not following them yourself' thing drives me crazy in a work environment. I've worked a job without set hours and that is very flexible. People that have kids need to step out more often to pick them up or take care of something, and we're totally cool with that.
Someone that will grumble "people with kids just have an excuse to leave whenever they want", will leave the office early the next day to go home because a package was delivered and they don't want to wait until the end of their work day. Which again, we're flexible, but my god the hypocrisy can be toxic and suck. "I need to go home and get my packages, but they're lazy because they have a family that needs something" is crazy to me, and it sound very similar to what was described in the post. Encountering that was the exception rather than the norm, thankfully, and it's never been a boss with that mentality.
All that is to say, I can't imagine how much more frustrating that would be if it's the CEO. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to work in that environment, much less with the other stuff piled on top of it.
 
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nitrosmob said:
I have to say I now have a pending LRG order again. Lollipop Chainsaw just doesn't get enough love nowadays and I did enjoyed Shadows of the Damned way back when. I barely remember either, so when they come in I'll have some fun.
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Did the same and I feel dirty for it. I know I could have imported both of them but meh I'd probably forget about them by the time comes around. It's my first order since the last Castlevania release, of which they'll probably snag me for the Dominus collection as well. Also how I was not surprised that they still haven't reimplemented Paypal for pre-orders.
 
ShadowAssassin said:
Do Limited Run's games come with cards anymore? I didn't have one with the Grandia HD Collection for PS4 I got recently.
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If you were curious, discontinuing trading cards was listed as one of their steps to improve shipping times in 2023:
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Limited Run Shipping Initiatives 2023

Over the last few years, our customers have noticed that our production and fulfillment period has slowed down considerably. Orders that once took only a few weeks to fulfill now may take several months. In some cases, those waits have ballooned into undesirably long delays.
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What's the deal with games marked as Limited Run number and those without?

I'm thinking about buying the Shadows Of The Damned Remaster physical copy just cus I Love Grasshopper and may want it in my collection long term. But unsure if it not being a Limited Run Numbered game means it'll probably come to retail? I'd avoid ordering from LRG if it'll come to retail
 
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