PlayStation Move - Launching September 19, 2010 (US)

[quote name='SuperPhillip']You know, there are third party Wii games that aren't crap... :roll:[/QUOTE]

I know that. There are actually a couple of third party games that I'm interested in playing. No More Heroes, The Conduit, MadWorld and a few others.

But you see.... Third party games on the Wii is like walking into a deep damp dark cave. There's all sorts of useless rocks covering a cave. That aren't worth a damn, but if you really search. You might find a couple diamonds in the rough. :cool:
 
I'd love to see Muramasa, the Demon Blade come over to PS3. I have it for Wii, but haven't finished it. I'd buy another copy just to have it in HD (as it should be seen, it's a beautiful game--even on the Wii).

And I'm sorry, there really aren't a lot of good 3rd party games on the Wii. There's a select few, and that's about it. And even those are watered down and motion controls are shoehorned into them. I own 23 Wii games, and most of them are Nintendo 1st party.
 
Lame. Was hoping SONY/Microsoft would step up the game when it came to motion control. Instead we get Wii 2.0, same shit I see on Wii with just a prettier coat of paint. I watched AOTS' poor coverage of SONY's press conference at GDC and was disappointed in the whole thing.
 
[quote name='neudog']Lame. Was hoping SONY/Microsoft would step up the game when it came to motion control. Instead we get Wii 2.0, same shit I see on Wii with just a prettier coat of paint. I watched AOTS' poor coverage of SONY's press conference at GDC and was disappointed in the whole thing.[/QUOTE]

Most everyone who actually went to the GDC and asked questions and saw the tech demos came up with a very similar opinion. The software isnt there yet, but the hardware is really incredible. It takes time to get these things tuned, especially for hardware so young. But the most important thing is that the hardware itself is capable of what you want and not faking it like the Wii remote. We know for sure this setup is superior in every single way possible to the wii setup and can do most of the things the Natal setup can as well (facial recognition, voice command, body mapping).

I would wait to see the final offerings before making judgement. We (meaning people who own a Wii) all gave it a shot and nintendo proved it conned us with promises of 1:1 motions. I think we're finally getting what we were promised years ago, except in HD and with functional online to go with it.

There is a great article at Digital Foundry you can read to get a very detailed insight on the device from someone really technical.
 
^ Well said.

There were a few kinks in some of the software, but for the most part, it was pretty smooth. Plus, software can be tweaked, so I have full confidence that the PS Move is going to work well (at least for 1st party). I really hope Sony helps out its 3rd party developers to use the tech well.
 
[quote name='neudog']Lame. Was hoping SONY/Microsoft would step up the game when it came to motion control. Instead we get Wii 2.0, same shit I see on Wii with just a prettier coat of paint. I watched AOTS' poor coverage of SONY's press conference at GDC and was disappointed in the whole thing.[/QUOTE]

Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "stepping up the game when it came to motion control". What exactly do you want to see?
 
[quote name='ssjmichael']Can you please elaborate on what you mean by "stepping up the game when it came to motion control". What exactly do you want to see?[/QUOTE]

What I mean is go outside the box and show us something innovative with your hardware. You know what SONY/GDC showed was Wii 2.0 with glorified Wii Boxing and Tennis in the demos on stage. How about showing your tech with say...Lacrosse or MMA. I told my buddy spectreon that when this motin control for PS3/360 comes out it will kill the Wii. Of course the pricing originally will keep Wii in the game for awhile, but I think again Nintendo will be racing to catch back up. I'm a supporter of all consoles, though 360 is my main one, and thank Nintendo for getting me into gaming with the NES. However, the only good thing on the Wii is first party stuff and that can't be your main focus. Sure I liked Madworld, No More Heroes, etc. and Nintendo did motion control first, but the system is weak for gamers. I enjoy my Wii, but their motion control seems geared towards groups and parties and very little on the individual aspect. That being said I think SONY and MS will surpass what Nintendo had in mind with motion.
 
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I don't really understand this recent fad with motion control. I don't know about you guys, but every implementation of it this gen has had me feeling less immersed in the game and much more conscious of how I'm holding the controller. The game tells me to shake or tilt the controller and I lose focus with the game to put effort into the movement... it really detracts from the experience for me :(.

Not to mention, the accuracy of the movement is appalling on the Wii (even with the MotionPlus) and Sixaxis...
 
^^Yeah, I think I've pretty much come to the conclusion that Motion controls are fun for party games, but that's about it. I've yet to have a traditional video game really make me say "wow, motion controls have really made this better."
 
[quote name='jh6269']I'd love to see Muramasa, the Demon Blade come over to PS3. I have it for Wii, but haven't finished it. I'd buy another copy just to have it in HD (as it should be seen, it's a beautiful game--even on the Wii).

And I'm sorry, there really aren't a lot of good 3rd party games on the Wii. There's a select few, and that's about it. And even those are watered down and motion controls are shoehorned into them. I own 23 Wii games, and most of them are Nintendo 1st party.[/QUOTE]

You're the person who wrote a pathetic apology on your blog because you flamed me for liking the Wii. I'm sure your view isn't skewed at all.

"^^Yeah, I think I've pretty much come to the conclusion that Motion controls are fun for party games, but that's about it. I've yet to have a traditional video game really make me say "wow, motion controls have really made this better.""

For me, I dig the controls for shooters way more than dual-analog. Easily.

Really interested in MOVE, but you people who care for it only because it has the Sony name on it are really pathetic.
 
I definitely do not want this. It's going to be a lot of Wii games fashioned with HD coating.

I haven't watched much of the coverage, but that fighting game? Yeah, that looked fun...swinging around with some moves not registering...ugh. ("That was an early demo...the final version won't be like that!")

Then again, I don't want Natal either. I wish both Sony and Microsoft would've left this stuff alone...
 
[quote name='SuperPhillip']Really interested in MOVE, but you people who care for it only because it has the Sony name on it are really pathetic.[/QUOTE]

Usually the one calling others pathetic, tends to be the most pathetic of them all.

No one here is interested because it has the sony name on it, its because we get something superior to the wii, but now in HD and online that actually works and games we want to play. I know its hard to accept that a lot of us dont want to play games without features like HD graphics, surround sound, usable online and more. But we exist. And we're hyped. Wii never was going to satisfy us, and never will.

Once you get over that, you'll live better.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']Usually the one calling others pathetic, tends to be the most pathetic of them all.[/QUOTE]

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Someone stupid said that to me.

No one here is interested because it has the sony name on it, its because we get something superior to the wii, but now in HD and online that actually works and games we want to play. I know its hard to accept that a lot of us dont want to play games without features like HD graphics, surround sound, usable online and more. But we exist. And we're hyped. Wii never was going to satisfy us, and never will.

Once you get over that, you'll live better.
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I love how you insult the Wii like I have an emotional investment to it. I don't care. I think you're a troll, and your post history shows that. No, it's not because you disagree with me, it's because you go out of your way to irritate.
 
[quote name='Rig']Then again, I don't want Natal either. I wish both Sony and Microsoft would've left this stuff alone...[/QUOTE]

Motion Controls make for an awesome "gateway drug", if you will. It's tons easier for the average non-gamer to understand that swinging a thing will cause a character to swing a thing than it is for them to understand that hitting a random button with a shape on it will cause a character to swing. From there, it's only a matter of time before they learn how to better control stuff with a controller. In other words, Motion Controls will lessen the learning curve from non-gamer to controller-jocky.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']Motion Controls make for an awesome "gateway drug", if you will. It's tons easier for the average non-gamer to understand that swinging a thing will cause a character to swing a thing than it is for them to understand that hitting a random button with a shape on it will cause a character to swing. From there, it's only a matter of time before they learn how to better control stuff with a controller. In other words, Motion Controls will lessen the learning curve from non-gamer to controller-jocky.[/QUOTE]

Well-said. Scary. :cold:
 
I bought Wii Fit with the Balance Board, as well as the Wii Zapper assuming many games would come out for those accessories. Nothing really worth it has. I'm going to hold off on this lightbulb until I see a game worth playing that uses it.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']
No one here is interested because it has the sony name on it, its because we get something superior to the wii, but now in HD and online that actually works and games we want to play. I know its hard to accept that a lot of us dont want to play games without features like HD graphics, surround sound, usable online and more. But we exist. And we're hyped. Wii never was going to satisfy us, and never will.

Once you get over that, you'll live better.[/QUOTE]

:applause:
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']No one here is interested because it has the sony name on it, its because we get something superior to the wii, but now in HD and online that actually works and games we want to play. I know its hard to accept that a lot of us dont want to play games without features like HD graphics, surround sound, usable online and more. But we exist. And we're hyped. Wii never was going to satisfy us, and never will.[/QUOTE]
Talk to me when there are actually worthwhile games out that support the PS3 Move, we are practically still waiting for them on the Wii. I don't know why you think it's going to be any different on the PS3, even with the better technical specs. As of now we are seeing the same shovelware that has plagued the Wii since launch; crappy party games and mini-game collections.

SOCOM 4 is a step in the right direction, though.
 
[quote name='yukine']Talk to me when there are actually worthwhile games out that support the PS3 Move, we are practically still waiting for them on the Wii. I don't know why you think it's going to be any different on the PS3, even with the better technical specs. As of now we are seeing the same shovelware that has plagued the Wii since launch; crappy party games and mini-game collections.

SOCOM 4 is a step in the right direction, though.[/QUOTE]

This. I'm far from a fanboy for any system...I own every console from the NES-Today, and there are none I don't enjoy. However, most of the best games on the Wii (the system most dependent on the motion control feature) feature little to no motion controls. Like I said before, the balance board and wii zapper (albiet not from Sony) both promised many new games supporting both, so I made the purchases. Worthwhile games for either peripheral are few and far between. I'm choosing to wait to pick this one up until there is a specific game or two I want to use it with.
 
[quote name='SuperPhillip']You're the person who wrote a pathetic apology on your blog because you flamed me for liking the Wii. I'm sure your view isn't skewed at all.[/QUOTE]

What? I don't have a blog. I don't care if you like the Wii or not, it's your personal choice.
 
I would like to see what the controls for Socom 4 would be like with this, and maybe other shooters. If its like Resident Evil 4 on Wii. Then maybe I will consider a purchase for a bundle.
 
[quote name='yukine']Talk to me when there are actually worthwhile games out that support the PS3 Move, we are practically still waiting for them on the Wii. I don't know why you think it's going to be any different on the PS3, even with the better technical specs. As of now we are seeing the same shovelware that has plagued the Wii since launch; crappy party games and mini-game collections.

SOCOM 4 is a step in the right direction, though.[/QUOTE]

What we saw at GDC was all pre-alpha and really early. Sony has gone on record saying they have 20 first party Move games out by end of this year, and they showed 6 of them. So theres still 14 more we dont know about. Also, if you didnt catch the Slider game, definitely do. Its the only SCEJ Move game shown so far and looks incredible. If you would like a link to a video of it, let me know and ill dig up GAF for it. I would wait till E3 to get a really good idea of what we're going to be looking at.

Also, SOCOM team members were saying that Move controller vs Pad, the MOVE players were destroying the pad people and that they had to make decision on how to handle this online. So obviously it sounds pretty useful so far.

Dont forget RE5/LBP are getting Move patches along with a ton of other games we havent heard about yet. I wouldn't be worried on the good games to use for it, there will be an abundance imo.

[quote name='FroMann']I would like to see what the controls for Socom 4 would be like with this, and maybe other shooters. If its like Resident Evil 4 on Wii. Then maybe I will consider a purchase for a bundle.[/QUOTE]

See comment above about Socom motion controls + RE5 is for sure getting patched. Ive also read that Resistance 3 will have native Move support day 1. Exciting stuff.
 
Indeed, we will have to wait and see. It is too early to completely dismiss the Move, but I also think it's too early to get hyped-up over it with what we know now.
 
I think those tech demos look great. I could see things like that being integrated into games in the menus pretty easily and intuitively. Can also see Heavy Rain type games, or traditional adventure games (hello Telltale!) using controls like that to navigate rooms.

I know it's still early, but I think as long as developers utilize the technology and work on creating things more innovative than Wii-game clones, we will see a lot of great things coming from Move.
 
Here's a Time article with the first price I've seen mentioned -- $100? Doesn't say what you get for $100. I'm hoping that's for something like the camera and a couple Move and nunchuk controllers.

Sound bite version:

Sony is hoping the $100 Move component, which is due in stores this fall, will help its once-dominant PlayStation 3 console get its mojo back.
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Actually I think they mentioned at the GDC press conference that they were aiming for a starter kit for under 100. Yeah 99.99 ....

Anyway, the starter kit they mentioned would be the PSEye, Move controller and a game. It didn't sound like the sub-controller would be included.

Which would be a travesty, because if you subtract the PSEye at 30 retail and the game essentially being free as a pack in .... it would seem that the standard Move controller would be a whopping 70 bucks. I'm hoping they wise up and make that either 2 Move controllers or at least a controller and sub-controller.
 
[quote name='metaly']Sound bite version:
Sony is hoping the $100 Move component, which is due in stores this fall, will help its once-dominant PlayStation 3 console get its mojo back.
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Man, that highlighted portion of the quote is totally backwards. As much as I love the PS3, it's never been in a dominant position (at least in the US). And yet it already has a great deal of mojo going into E3 and the rest of the year.

Still waiting for more details -- but at least there is a great deal more information on the Move (technical discussions, game demos, etc.) than compared to Natal. I'm getting really jaded to all those Ricochet videos.
 
I don't know if move is going to be a success or not.. but it won't be because it wasn't good. I'm impressed with the tech.
 
Third-party accessories have already started appearing with Nyko being the first to some charging stations:

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[quote name='seanr1221']So, is this the official thread?

I wonder why more people here aren't talking about this.[/QUOTE]

thats a good question...but the OP could change the thread title to "PS Move" to get more attention
 
Reviews are up at Kotaku, IGN, and Joystiq. The hardware is getting generally favorable reviews but the scores for the individual games are all over the place. They all say that there is a lot of recalibration between games. It seems like the tracking is either really good or really bad depending on the environment you're playing in. Joystiq said Tumble's motion controls were great and gave it a 4.5/5, while IGN said the tracking was terrible and gave it a 3.5/10.

It seems to me that all of the launch titles for Move already have a comparable game on Wii and seeing as how I already have a Wii I don't play, I'm going to wait for the Move to bring something new to the table as far as games go. Give us something for the core gamers Sony--other than shoehorned in motion controls Heavy Rain.
 
[quote name='jh6269']
And this one:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...offers-gamers-more-than-microsofts-kinect.ars[/QUOTE]

I am definitely getting move when it comes out since I already have the PSEye ... but wow. I had never seen that video on that page of the Harry Potter game using Kinect. That was absolutely horrible.

Just seems like it would be so much better if it was more in the same vein as they were showing the Sorcery game for the PS Move. As it is now it is nothing but a rail shooter where you don't even have to aim.
 
[quote name='AdvOfJet']I am definitely getting move when it comes out since I already have the PSEye ... but wow. I had never seen that video on that page of the Harry Potter game using Kinect. That was absolutely horrible.

Just seems like it would be so much better if it was more in the same vein as they were showing the Sorcery game for the PS Move. As it is now it is nothing but a rail shooter where you don't even have to aim.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know. Honestly, PS Move has the most potential out of all 3 of the technologies (in my opinion). I honestly do not know what Kinect really has to offer that PS Eye cannot already do (granted, I haven't really spent a lot of time trying to find out, since I do not have a 360, and am not going to buy one).

I look at it this way: you have 2 main types of motion controls. One, the way the Wii has it, where you use IR and sensors (no motion tracking w/the camera). Then, you have the Kinect type of control, all hands-free camera motion controls. Sony took both technologies and merged them together. To me, that seems like the best of both worlds, and you can probably port a lot of Kinect and Wii titles to the PS Move.

Also, from what I've heard on various podcasts and blogs, the original specs of Kinect have been taken out to make the system cheaper. So much of the heavy lifting is going to be done by the 360. If that's the case, I don't see why the PS3 would not be capable of doing exactly the same thing as Kinect (except for the fact that Kinect has stereoscopic vision with 2 camera lenses). I would think that about 85% or so of the Kinect stuff could be done on the PS Eye alone.

Anyway, the biggest titles for the PS Move that I'm looking forward to are Sorcery, Time Crisis (probably my most anticipated), and The Shoot. I'd also like to have a good bowling game to play (the Wii Sports bowling was really fun, and I kind of miss playing that now that I barely turn my Wii on).

Oh, and one more very very critical thing that I think the PS Move does right is for most games, motion controls will be OPTIONAL. Which is exactly how it should be done--no stupid half-a$$ed Move controller turned on its side to play games.
 
I'm really looking forward to Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition w/ Move Support. I've never played RE5, but I loved Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition. :bouncy:
 
[quote name='KillerRamen']I'm really looking forward to Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition w/ Move Support. I've never played RE5, but I loved Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition. :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, I hate Zombie games (it just freaks me out too much), but isn't Killzone 3 supposed to be having Move support as well? I think that may be good if it's done right.
 
[quote name='jh6269']Unfortunately, I hate Zombie games (it just freaks me out too much), but isn't Killzone 3 supposed to be having Move support as well? I think that may be good if it's done right.[/QUOTE]

Yup, Killzone 3 has Move Support as well as Deadspace 2. I wouldn't be surprised that if by this time next year if most if not all new FPS games have Move support.

Here's a list of Move compatible games:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_Move
 
^^ Thanks. I really hope it adds something to the game. I love Killzone 2, and 3 looks really freaking awesome.

I really hope Move does better than anyone expects, it's about time Sony started picking up the pace with the other 2 consoles. Now that bloggers and other folks are finally starting to give the PS3 some attention, I really hope it starts to catch on.
 
The OP isn't to useful right now sorry. Cleaned it up some but I need to add more to it to get the basic info up at least. So will do that in a bit here.
 
[quote name='jh6269']Yeah, I know. Honestly, PS Move has the most potential out of all 3 of the technologies (in my opinion). I honestly do not know what Kinect really has to offer that PS Eye cannot already do (granted, I haven't really spent a lot of time trying to find out, since I do not have a 360, and am not going to buy one).

I look at it this way: you have 2 main types of motion controls. One, the way the Wii has it, where you use IR and sensors (no motion tracking w/the camera). Then, you have the Kinect type of control, all hands-free camera motion controls. Sony took both technologies and merged them together. To me, that seems like the best of both worlds, and you can probably port a lot of Kinect and Wii titles to the PS Move.

Also, from what I've heard on various podcasts and blogs, the original specs of Kinect have been taken out to make the system cheaper. So much of the heavy lifting is going to be done by the 360. If that's the case, I don't see why the PS3 would not be capable of doing exactly the same thing as Kinect (except for the fact that Kinect has stereoscopic vision with 2 camera lenses). I would think that about 85% or so of the Kinect stuff could be done on the PS Eye alone.

Anyway, the biggest titles for the PS Move that I'm looking forward to are Sorcery, Time Crisis (probably my most anticipated), and The Shoot. I'd also like to have a good bowling game to play (the Wii Sports bowling was really fun, and I kind of miss playing that now that I barely turn my Wii on).

Oh, and one more very very critical thing that I think the PS Move does right is for most games, motion controls will be OPTIONAL. Which is exactly how it should be done--no stupid half-a$$ed Move controller turned on its side to play games.[/QUOTE]
You make it sound like Sony copied the wiimote and MS copied the eyetoy. Had Nintendo never come up with the wiimote I would not be surprised if it was Sony who came up with Kinect.
 
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