PS3 101: New user's guide to the PS3 (ask questions here -- TMK is on duty)

[quote name='Richlough']The SG is the guitar that came with GH1 .
I was wondering what adapter to get , I don't care if it doesnt work properly any other way as long as the guitar will work .[/QUOTE]If that's the case, the Pelican adapter was reported to work with the first Guitar Hero over the summer, but I cannot confirm whether it still does. The Pelican adapter is very hard to find though. Most adapters, the whammy bar is not functional and some adapters have input lag (with GH1). GH 80's won't work in anyway at the moment.

EDIT: Oh yeah, this was a thread we had:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137418
 
[quote name='Rasen']I'm inclined to say go large, for the backwards compatibility. Also, because games seem to be having mandatory installations more often.[/quote]

So one game is now a trend? Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't the only game known to have a mandatory install is Devil May Cry 4?

I would go for the cheapest possible that suits your needs. Do you want BC? Do you want memory card readers(useful for looking at pictures, importing music and importing mods)? Do you only want to play PS3 games and not PS2 games? Do you like chrome finishes? Can you wait for the rumored DS3 having 120 GB system? Do you like the Civil War?
 
Does Sony have any intention of creating a web page to manage PSN friends and whatnot ?
Have they ever said anything about adding this 'feature' ?
 
[quote name='ddrlenz']Go 80g for the backwards compatability.[/quote]

I dont own one either. I just want to know is the 80gb one the EE chip like the 60gb one.

I don't feel like having to do the 360 thing of downloading crap in order to play. I just wanna pop any game in and not have to worry about the whole libary thing(if thats the way the ps3 does it)
And also will the big 120-160gb ones coming out have the EE chip?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Wait for the new version of the 80GB, which should have a larger HDD and the dualshock controller.

Or just get the 40GB and no PS2 BC.[/quote]

Is the 80gb version the EE chip?
 
Only the 20 and 60GB have the EE chip and hardware-based BC.

80GB and its successor are software based and mostly compatible, but it's not perfect (meanwhile, the 20/60GB's only major drawback is its inability to use PS2 Guitar Hero controllers, or even use the GHIII controller to play GHI and II/RT80s).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Only the 20 and 60GB have the EE chip and hardware-based BC.

80GB and its successor are software based and mostly compatible, but it's not perfect (meanwhile, the 20/60GB's only major drawback is its inability to use PS2 Guitar Hero controllers, or even use the GHIII controller to play GHI and II/RT80s).[/QUOTE]

The 80 GB can ?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Only the 20 and 60GB have the EE chip and hardware-based BC.

80GB and its successor are software based and mostly compatible, but it's not perfect (meanwhile, the 20/60GB's only major drawback is its inability to use PS2 Guitar Hero controllers, or even use the GHIII controller to play GHI and II/RT80s).[/quote]

Eh I was hoping for the EE chip in the bigger ones. I use my 360 to play GH3, and ill be using it to play rockband so that doesnt matter to me. Well 60gb here I come if i can find one.
 
[quote name='Richlough']The 80 GB can ?[/QUOTE]

No PS3 can, so sorry if I worded it incorrectly. I was just pointing out that the 20/60GB BC isn't perfect (though it *does* play the GH games, not being able to use the controller ruins the point).

Given Activision's wanking around with Red Octane and blocking the PS3 Les Paul from working with Rock Band, I can't help but think they also deliberately made sure it wouldn't work with the PS2 GH games.
 
Honestly, I would just go out and grab the 40gb PS3 next week at Target with their in-store promotion. The free $40 giftcard you receive can then be used on the PS3 DMC4 game purchase, which in turn will net you another free $10 giftcard.

IMO, after you experience high-def gaming on the PS3, there's no going back. I rarely use the BC functionality on my original 20gb machine. Even with upscaled functionality for PS2 games...they still look butt-ugly (especially on 1080p HDTV sets). So just save the $100 difference for more nextgen PS3 games or a slimline PS2 model if you don't already own one. There are a ton of awesome PS3 games to occupy your time, so don't worry about the PS2 BC debate.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Try creating another, because I'll mention two glitches I once had early on with my PS3 (back in early 07).

One time I saved a Xenogears saved data (from my PS3) to a memory card, and could no longer read anything on the memory card. I deleted that game save and had no issues since then (I just created another card and saved to it).

One time my Final Fantasy card said no data, and I know for sure it had all my FF saves. I just restarted my PS3 and they all came back. After that, I copied my saves twice onto two memory cards, just in case something goes wrong.[/quote]Thanks Mana Knight. Those suggestions worked perfectly. I just had to plug the memory cards in and out until it read them. I had to reset my system just once to get it to work so all is good. By the way, third party cards do work, at least the one my friend tried did. Thanks again for your help!
 
[quote name='Kendal']So one game is now a trend? Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't the only game known to have a mandatory install is Devil May Cry 4?[/quote]
Heavenly Sword requires 2.1+ GB. 2.5GB in my case. Can't speak for other games because I don't have any, but I imagine there are others.
 
[quote name='Ma12kez']Thanks Mana Knight. Those suggestions worked perfectly. I just had to plug the memory cards in and out until it read them. I had to reset my system just once to get it to work so all is good. By the way, third party cards do work, at least the one my friend tried did. Thanks again for your help![/QUOTE]From what I heard, most will not, but some actually might, unless a recent firmware update made all third party cards work.

[quote name='Richlough']Does Sony have any intention of creating a web page to manage PSN friends and whatnot ?
Have they ever said anything about adding this 'feature' ?[/QUOTE]With home there's a possibility (like managing your avatar and such), over what has been said (there seems to be a url reserved for the PlayStation Network).

Although, one reason you do pay for XBL is to get that feature (XBL Gold members can send messages on the website). You can at least reserve a name now. And you also gotta understand MS had XBL running before the 360 (and was able to get it up on site), and Sony has only had PSN running for just over a year.
 
Bumping this thread to see what people are recommending now for a pair of stereo headphones with mic. I have to play with headphones on so my kid doesn't wake up while I'm killing people in CoD4. :D
 
This has quick reference chart

http://ps3mods.blogspot.com/2007/10/which-ps3-to-buy.html

Also a venn diagram

venn_copy.jpg


Source

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/10/diagram-compari.html
 
nice chart! haha, quick NOOB Q, can a USB thumb drive be used in the USB slot for memory transfer etc as in the SD/MEM stick slots found in the 80gb etc? Lookin into a 40gb.
 
Yes, you can transfer pictures, videos, etc, just as easily with a thumb drive as you can with an SD/CF or MS card.
 
[[media]quote=FatBoyInside;3933143]Honestly, I would just go out and grab the 40gb PS3 next week at Target with their in-store promotion. The free $40 giftcard you receive can then be used on the PS3 DMC4 game purchase, which in turn will net you another free $10 giftcard.[/media]
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IMO, after you experience high-def gaming on the PS3, there's no going back. I rarely use the BC functionality on my original 20gb machine. Even with upscaled functionality for PS2 games...they still look butt-ugly (especially on 1080p HDTV sets). So just save the $100 difference for more nextgen PS3 games or a slimline PS2 model if you don't already own one. There are a ton of awesome PS3 games to occupy your time, so don't worry about the PS2 BC debate.[/quote]

Honestly, I would just go out and grab the 40gb PS3 next week at Target with their in-store promotion. The free $40 giftcard you receive can then be used on the PS3 DMC4 game purchase, which in turn will net you another free $10 giftcard.




How did you find out about this?
 
[quote name='Jest']Id wait for the rumored 120 gig with DS3 controllers. Or at least wait until theres some news from Sony.[/QUOTE]It's being rumored that SKU will have no PS2 BC. Since SCEJ hasn't bundled a DS3 with a PS3 yet (even with the new silver PS3), I honestly don't expect SCEA to do the same either.
 
I mostly want the Blu-ray player lol and come future, MGS4.. I didn't play my PS2 that much at all except for MGS2 and 3 now that I think about it.. hmmm

also is there a rumor to the price of the 120gb? If it is the same as 40gb but $100 more, can't you just purchase a 120gb HDD somewhere and replace it? I'm not sure of the price, but I don't think it's $100 for one haha
 
[quote name='aznguyen316']I mostly want the Blu-ray player lol and come future, MGS4.. I didn't play my PS2 that much at all except for MGS2 and 3 now that I think about it.. hmmm

also is there a rumor to the price of the 120gb? If it is the same as 40gb but $100 more, can't you just purchase a 120gb HDD somewhere and replace it? I'm not sure of the price, but I don't think it's $100 for one haha[/QUOTE]Well, it might come with card readers and two more USB ports, but in reality, you can add them to the 40GB and it would cost about the same. Personally, I'd just go with the 40GB. Although there is a rumor about a white PS3 SKU coming (I assume it's a 40GB, since I saw two USB ports on the FCC picture).
 
I might get a PS3 with my tax monies.
40gb the way to go?

But is there anything to look forward to? Any potential price drops, new models, etc coming out? I'd hate to just go pick 1 up in a few weeks and then something new/better show up. :bomb:
 
[quote name='lilboo']I might get a PS3 with my tax monies.
40gb the way to go?

But is there anything to look forward to? Any potential price drops, new models, etc coming out? I'd hate to just go pick 1 up in a few weeks and then something new/better show up. :bomb:[/QUOTE]Wait until GDC at least. As for price drops, it was rumored earlier and never happened. There might be a white PS3 coming due to the FCC picture.
 
Does the playstation store accept debit cards? I ask because I have tried multiple times over the last 2 months to use my card to download some stuff and it always says its invalid.
 
[quote name='Kilger']Does the playstation store except debit cards? I ask because I have tried multiple times over the last 2 months to use my card to download some stuff and it always says its invalid.[/quote]

I have used mine with no problems. Do you have to give the security number?
 
[quote name='primetime']I have used mine with no problems. Do you have to give the security number?[/quote]

Yea I just don't get it, I enter the info exactly how it should be, I use the card on the daily basis, have no problems with amazon or even xbox live, but it will not let me register my card on the PS Store

*edit*

Apparently it had something to do with the way my billing address was entered, all is well now.
 
[quote name='Kilger']Yea I just don't get it, I enter the info exactly how it should be, I use the card on the daily basis, have no problems with amazon or even xbox live, but it will not let me register my card on the PS Store

*edit*

Apparently it had something to do with the way my billing address was entered, all is well now.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the billing address MUST match what the bank or whatever has on file, and if it's an apartment number, it sometimes has to be put in address line 1.
 
[quote name='lilboo']I might get a PS3 with my tax monies.
40gb the way to go?

But is there anything to look forward to? Any potential price drops, new models, etc coming out? I'd hate to just go pick 1 up in a few weeks and then something new/better show up. :bomb:[/QUOTE]

Wait for the Dualshock to be packed in ,you'll end up wanting one ASAP anyway .
 
[quote name='Richlough']Wait for the Dualshock to be packed in ,you'll end up wanting one ASAP anyway .[/QUOTE]I'm not really trying to force him to buy a PS3 asap, but I really question whether it will happen, because despite the DS3 being out in Japan, the white SKU never got it (came out the same day as the white PS3), and the new silver PS3 still comes with a SIXAXIS. I could be wrong because SCEI and SCEA do different things at times, but that's just what I watched (and I highly doubt SCE wants to put a more expensive controller in their console atm). But then again, I could be wrong.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I'm not really trying to force him to buy a PS3 asap, but I really question whether it will happen, because despite the DS3 being out in Japan, the white SKU never got it (came out the same day as the white PS3), and the new silver PS3 still comes with a SIXAXIS. I could be wrong because SCEI and SCEA do different things at times, but that's just what I watched (and I highly doubt SCE wants to put a more expensive controller in their console atm). But then again, I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]

Well with the rumors of the demise of the 80 GB it all kind of adds up .
Depending on how long the remaining stock of 80's lasts there will probably be an E3 announcement or prior .

They certainly don't want to piss off retailers with loads of SIXAXI on there shelves by announcing anything .

Look to Speedy1961's crystal ball for that revelation .

But having GT5 with no Dualshock 3 is gonna be a[nother] major fuck up .
 
[quote name='Richlough']Well with the rumors of the demise of the 80 GB it all kind of adds up .
Depending on how long the remaining stock of 80's lasts there will probably be an E3 announcement or prior .

They certainly don't want to piss off retailers with loads of SIXAXI on there shelves by announcing anything .

Look to Speedy1961's crystal ball for that revelation .

But having GT5 with no Dualshock 3 is gonna be a[nother] major fuck up .[/QUOTE]If anything, they'll just mark down the price of the SIXAXIS, but I believe they stopped shipping them a while ago (hoping to clear them out).

As for the DS3 coming out with DS3, I think there's a very good chance it will happen, but since SCEA has been very silent, who knows (a lot of things have gone silent as of late like Wipeout HD, PSN Cards, etc. (which was all intended for Q1 2008).
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']If anything, they'll just mark down the price of the SIXAXIS, but I believe they stopped shipping them a while ago (hoping to clear them out).

As for the DS3 coming out with DS3, I think there's a very good chance it will happen, but since SCEA has been very silent, who knows (a lot of things have gone silent as of late like Wipeout HD, PSN Cards, etc. (which was all intended for Q1 2008).[/QUOTE]

Maybe they want to announce alot of stuff all at once so everyone gets a fair amount of good news .
Announce say 12 things , but if I'm only excited about 4 , then that's a good amount for me .
Then they'll look like they're going to kick ass all year .

I don't know most of their major announcements end up getting leaked .
Maybe they like it that way , maybe I'm leaking them right now ?
 
When Sony starts packing the DS3 in with the system, I'm gonna have to build a bunker to retreat to for a few months to avoid all the early-adopters'/bloggers' whining.

This is going to sound a little insane, but I'm sort of looking forward to picking up another DS3 because it means I'll have four controllers on hand for multiplayer Warhawk/whathaveyou. I try to look on the positive side of things.
 
[quote name='metaly']When Sony starts packing the DS3 in with the system, I'm gonna have to build a bunker to retreat to for a few months to avoid all the early-adopters'/bloggers' whining.

This is going to sound a little insane, but I'm sort of looking forward to picking up another DS3 because it means I'll have four controllers on hand for multiplayer Warhawk/whathaveyou. I try to look on the positive side of things.[/QUOTE]

I don't really care too much because I scored a 60 GB and that's the only choice ever .

All I have to say is 'tough shit Player 2' .
 
Haha, that's what I say now since I've gotten my white DS3.

I have 3 controllers now. I'll probably buy a silver DS3 and be done with it.
4 is the max I would ever need.
 
I turn off all rumble features on my 360, never cared for it and wastes battery life lol so DS3 is totally not any sort of push for me... unless it has other features not in the sixaxis
 
The only feature I'd care about is a wired version and a version that accepts normal batteries.

Otherwise...I don't really pay attention to rumble either, and often turn it off (although ironically Sony's always had the best implementation of rumble by far IMO).
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']The only feature I'd care about is a wired version and a version that accepts normal batteries.

Otherwise...I don't really pay attention to rumble either, and often turn it off (although ironically Sony's always had the best implementation of rumble by far IMO).[/QUOTE]You don't have to worry about the SIXAXIS batteries dying anytime soon. They last a very long time too. I'm just glad I don't have to waste money replacing my batteries often.
 
I just got the bluetooth headset w/ warhawk, and got everything set up, but when I'm in a game other players come through the tv speakers, is there a way to change it to where it comes through the headset?
 
[quote name='Kilger']I just got the bluetooth headset w/ warhawk, and got everything set up, but when I'm in a game other players come through the tv speakers, is there a way to change it to where it comes through the headset?[/QUOTE]

You have to set it up in accessories in the PS3 menu .
 
[quote name='Richlough']You have to set it up in accessories in the PS3 menu .[/quote]
Do I have to set up the headset every time I play?
I set up the headset and it was working while I was fooling around alone :)-s) to get a little used to the controls. When I was done I turned off the headset. When I was playing WarHawk during CAG night I turned on the headset while Warhawk was booting up and it didn't work at all.
 
[quote name='mguiddy']Do I have to set up the headset every time I play?
I set up the headset and it was working while I was fooling around alone :)-s) to get a little used to the controls. When I was done I turned off the headset. When I was playing WarHawk during CAG night I turned on the headset while Warhawk was booting up and it didn't work at all.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, some bluetooth headsets might need re-pairing if you used it on a cell phone after just playing or in general. Thankfully the headsets I have don't require it. Which headset was it and I'll look it up?
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Unfortunately, some bluetooth headsets might need re-pairing if you used it on a cell phone after just playing or in general. Thankfully the headsets I have don't require it. Which headset was it and I'll look it up?[/quote]
The one that came with Warhawk. And it sat plugged in on my PS3 between me testing it out and last night. I don't use bluetooth headsets with cell phones.

Next time I play I was going to try turning it on after Warhawk was fully loaded, incase that messed it up somehow.
 
Hey all-

It's been tough to read through all this but I have a question concerning Rock Band. I bought a 60GB PS3 and want to know how I can get my red guitar from GH2 (dont know the name so won't try to use the wrong one) to work with the PS3? That way I can get all 4 people playing?
 
[quote name='mguiddy']The one that came with Warhawk. And it sat plugged in on my PS3 between me testing it out and last night. I don't use bluetooth headsets with cell phones.

Next time I play I was going to try turning it on after Warhawk was fully loaded, incase that messed it up somehow.[/QUOTE]Well, be sure to check it on the XMB before playing, since the Jabra BT125 is known to sometimes known to not automatically connect (well, what I mean is before playing Warhawk, make sure it's connected under the Accessory settings, since sometimes it will not connect).
 
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