Survivor Redemption island Feb. 16th on CBS official discussion thread

[quote name='Habbler']Time to speculate who the 2 past survivors to come back are. It won't be Rob or Russell. I am going to have to go with Rupert and James the gravedigger. Although I would rather it be someone like dumbass Erik the ice cream guy or Kenny the pro video gamer. Someone who has only had one season.[/QUOTE]
Russel vs. Philip. They already foreshadowed it.
 
[quote name='Habbler']Time to speculate who the 2 past survivors to come back are. It won't be Rob or Russell. I am going to have to go with Rupert and James the gravedigger. Although I would rather it be someone like dumbass Erik the ice cream guy or Kenny the pro video gamer. Someone who has only had one season.[/QUOTE]

The beginning of this season seemed to hint who it was. They had these "if this person got a chance to come back, could they win?" pre-commercial things that seemed odd to me. I think the ones featured was Erik, Shambo, but I forget the others. My guess is those people were put "on call" and two would be chosen with the others as alternates in case somebody drops out.
 
I'm a sucker for Survivor as it sucked me in on season 1, wow 11 years ago.... Glad Rob won, nobody has played the game like he did this year utter domination and control. Now that this season is over i'm gonna start watching old episodes a couple a week I think. I've never re-watched any so it should be interesting looking at the game back then knowing what we know now.

I hope Russell isn't back next season AGAIN.. I'm over the whole bring back someone thing unless it's a all-star show. Sucks they already teased 2 returnees..
 
[quote name='tcrash247']The question I pose now, did Rob play a great game or were the people he played with just really stupid to not vote him out?[/QUOTE]

It was a combination of both in my opinion. Russell's tribe got rid of him too early and Rob's tribe held onto him too long. Rob's tribe was naive. But Rob seemed to read people very well. He set the tone with the Matt blindside that apparently scared everyone else that was left into not getting on his bad side.

[quote name='Psykoboy2']I don't think that girl wanted to marry that guy. Not sure...but that was an uncomfortable "yes" to the proposal. [/QUOTE]
I thought the same thing.

[quote name='Javery']I'm surprised Grant was still so upset.[/QUOTE]
He apparently wasn't upset at first, since he and Rob kept in contact for the first few episode. I was trying to figure out what pissed him off in what he saw while watching the show. Maybe Habbler is right, it was when Rob was pretending to look for an idol with Grant that Rob already had.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Russel vs. Philip. They already foreshadowed it.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's it. Russel seemed genuine at the reunion that he wasn't really wanting to do Survivor again at least for a while. I think he's pretty tired of the game after getting beat 3 times in a row but he'd be back for another All Stars season.
 
[quote name='Habbler']I guess Grant got mad that he was chasing a hidden immunity idol that didn't exist.[/QUOTE]

Even still - it is a GAME people. My one gripe about every season of Survivor is how personal the jury takes it (for the most part). I mean Julie laid into Natalie for NO REASON. She was only upset and thinking Natalie played a disgraceful game or whatever (which she didn't) because she was not in the final 3. Everyone always thinks it is a huge mistake to be voted out - OF COURSE IT IS.

Do they actually believe that it would have been more honorable for Rob to take Grant for some "competition" in the final 3? What a joke. Rob played perfectly and wanted the weakest players sitting next to him which is what everyone would want. Yeah, I'm sure Rob is going to feel real bad spending the million dollars because he didn't play "honorably" - it's hilarious.

That one dude who proposed (that was a "10 million people are watching so I better say yes" acceptance by the way - I'll bet anything they don't actually get married) had the right idea - he was able to see how good Rob played the game and reward him for it. That's the way everyone should be on the jury, IMO.
 
[quote name='Javery']Even still - it is a GAME people. My one gripe about every season of Survivor is how personal the jury takes it (for the most part). I mean Julie laid into Natalie for NO REASON. She was only upset and thinking Natalie played a disgraceful game or whatever (which she didn't) because she was not in the final 3. [/quote]

I can sort of understand when people get that upset at the end. At that point, you're still in game mode. Tempers are still flared. Any hurt is still recent. You haven't really had any chance to separate yourself from things and reflect.

But, after the game, when you've had months to get over things, I do think people are letting things get a little overblown. (At least Julie realized this and took back what she said.) Despite how some of these players apparently looked down on this being "just a game", it is. These people are thrown together with one goal: win a million dollars. It's sort of like cut the other person's throat before they cut yours.

That one dude who proposed (that was a "10 million people are watching so I better say yes" acceptance by the way - I'll bet anything they don't actually get married) had the right idea - he was able to see how good Rob played the game and reward him for it. That's the way everyone should be on the jury, IMO.
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I found it amusing that that guy was so enamored with Rob that he had to copy his "propose at the reunion" thing.

From what he said, though, they only could've been dating for a matter of months. He said he met her after he got back, and from what I read, that would've been in October. So, at most, he's been dating her for 6-7 months. That's a pretty short love affair to pop the question in front of 10 million people. Something tells me that's going to be a long engagement.
 
[quote name='Cantatus']I can sort of understand when people get that upset at the end. At that point, you're still in game mode. Tempers are still flared. Any hurt is still recent. You haven't really had any chance to separate yourself from things and reflect.[/QUOTE]

Maybe - but Julie freaking stole and buried another player's underwear and laughed about it when asked yet it was Natalie who should be ashamed for her parents because of the way she played??? When did Natalie lie other than at the end when they got rid of Ashley? That was the only time she ever did anything even remotely "objectionable" (which it wasn't because you have to lie to win). It made no sense at all - just pure bitterness.

I also didn't think Philip owed Steve an apology after the way Steve laid into him at the final tribal council - that was way worse than Philips's crazy racist rant because Steve actually had time to think about it and meant what he said and meant it to be hurtful. Philip was just losing his mind.
 
Rob deserved it and won it.

I think CBS did a poor job of handling the whole Rob v. Russell and Rob getting the orange buff in the beginning is pretty much why he won this game. Had he ended up on Zapatera like Russell did, he would have not gotten very far.
 
Speaking of that proposal, do you think Survivor execs have a Survivor party when all the contestants get back with old contestants? Kinda weird, but I guess it's there own exclusive club.
 
Rob played perfectly, but the deck was stacked in his favor. I hate them bringing players back to the game, unless EVERYONE is a returning player. It really was the most lame season I've ever watched.
 
[quote name='hufferstl']Rob played perfectly, but the deck was stacked in his favor. I hate them bringing players back to the game, unless EVERYONE is a returning player. It really was the most lame season I've ever watched.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.
 
I cant believe they are repeating the formula next season. They had to have known before this season aired that it wasnt very good. And they really should get rid of the immunity idols.
 
[quote name='Javery']Even still - it is a GAME people. My one gripe about every season of Survivor is how personal the jury takes it (for the most part). I mean Julie laid into Natalie for NO REASON. She was only upset and thinking Natalie played a disgraceful game or whatever (which she didn't) because she was not in the final 3. Everyone always thinks it is a huge mistake to be voted out - OF COURSE IT IS.

Do they actually believe that it would have been more honorable for Rob to take Grant for some "competition" in the final 3? What a joke. Rob played perfectly and wanted the weakest players sitting next to him which is what everyone would want. Yeah, I'm sure Rob is going to feel real bad spending the million dollars because he didn't play "honorably" - it's hilarious.

That one dude who proposed (that was a "10 million people are watching so I better say yes" acceptance by the way - I'll bet anything they don't actually get married) had the right idea - he was able to see how good Rob played the game and reward him for it. That's the way everyone should be on the jury, IMO.[/QUOTE]

This times a million. Every fucking time when they do the final vote/bitch session out in the jungle the jury pisses me off. You go into the show with a what? 1 in 20 chance of winning? Don't be so butt-hurt weeks after you got voted out. God knows the show isn't going away and once you've been on for one season, you have a much better than average chance to come back again, especially if you were "robbed" or interesting to watch.
 
Let's hope this means Rob goes away for good....(who am I kidding?)

no one. He already has a History Channel show.
 
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[quote name='tcrash247']Speaking of that proposal, do you think Survivor execs have a Survivor party when all the contestants get back with old contestants? Kinda weird, but I guess it's there own exclusive club.[/QUOTE]

The Bachelor does events off camera. It wouldn't shock me if Survivor and other reality TV shows did the same.

Though like the rest of you guys, I think she really didn't want to say yes but felt almost forced to so that she wouldn't turn him down in front of millions. My guess is behind closed doors they had a nice "talk".

[quote name='Javery']My one gripe about every season of Survivor is how personal the jury takes it (for the most part). [/quote]
The redeeming part of this season was that the Jury actually voted for the best person who played the best game, unlike past seasons where they voted because of your statement. As for Natalie being berated, we don't know how their relationship was off camera. For all we know, Natalie could have been throwing herself at Rob and Julie didn't like that style of gameplay. Remember they film all the time and only clip what they need to portray someone.

[quote name='yankeessuck']I cant believe they are repeating the formula next season.[/quote]
I agree. When I heard that at the end of the reunion, I was like WTF. Let's see what resulted from this past season... The person who came back from RI each time, got voted out right away. In other words, pointless. Russell's team threw a challenge in order to boot him. Now that Rob won, who really is going to let any returning player make it to Merge.

To Survivor producers,
Please bring back the original format of the show. Everyone on the show must have applied i.e. no recruits. Give them the same rations and equipment the first season had. I am sick of seeing recruits tan chill and seem to not lose much weight at all, almost like poor man's camping.
Thanks,
Opus
P.S. Former players are only allowed to partake in seasons where the whole cast is of former players.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']The redeeming part of this season was that the Jury actually voted for the best person who played the best game, unlike past seasons where they voted because of your statement. As for Natalie being berated, we don't know how their relationship was off camera. For all we know, Natalie could have been throwing herself at Rob and Julie didn't like that style of gameplay. Remember they film all the time and only clip what they need to portray someone.[/QUOTE]

Yes but because of who was sitting next to Rob they really had no choice but to award him the $1M. I guarantee if Mike or Matt or any one else from the loser tribe was in the final 3 that person would have won even though he or she would have made zero moves in the game (since Rob was the only one who actually made any moves whatsoever).

Agreed about the edits and how it can skew how someone is portrayed but I honestly don't think there is any strategy that is better or more "honorable" (or whatever jury members think actually matters when in fact it does not) than any other strategy. The cold calculated killer works (Rob, Russell) but does riding coattails (Sandra) and flirting like crazy (Parvati). People need to recognize that once the game starts all bets are off and any behavior is acceptable within the confines of the game.
 
[quote name='Javery']Yes but because of who was sitting next to Rob they really had no choice but to award him the $1M.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I thought that about Russell's first season too. It just depends on if the jury takes it as a game or they take it as a personal attack.

I'm curious to know if ratings were somehow higher this season because of Rob/Russell being back. That could be why they're repeating this formula again.

Another thing I just thought of, I'm so happy they cut that whole remembrance bullshit. That was always my bathroom/food/whatever time during the finale.
 
[quote name='lordopus99']
I agree. When I heard that at the end of the reunion, I was like WTF. Let's see what resulted from this past season... The person who came back from RI each time, got voted out right away. In other words, pointless. Russell's team threw a challenge in order to boot him. Now that Rob won, who really is going to let any returning player make it to Merge.

[/QUOTE]

Plus it allows the producers to use it to manipulate keeping certain people in the game since it has no set rules.

And what happened to late endurance challenges, the auction, and crazy food challenges?
 
[quote name='yankeessuck']Plus it allows the producers to use it to manipulate keeping certain people in the game since it has no set rules.

And what happened to late endurance challenges, the auction, and crazy food challenges?[/QUOTE]

I missed all 3 of those things this season. I wonder if it was in Rob or Russell's contract to not have certain challenges. I bet the ratings were better with returning players. I will admit that the challenges were tailor-made for Rob to win.
 
I'm glad that Rob won. I didn't watch this whole season, but I'm glad that Rob got to the end and didn't get shafted by a grumpy jury. I still hold that Russel is the best player ever. Unfortunately he was stuck with a shitty jury. He played his first season like a champ.
 
They probably cut the auction because every week they combined the reward with immunity challenge and they didn't have time for the auction because of that Redemption Island crap. That sucks because I always enjoyed that.
 
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