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Welcome to the Steam Deal Thread V4! You can find the V1 thread (Nov 2010-July 2011) here, V2 thread (July 2011 - Feb 2012) here, and V3 thread (Feb-July 2012) here. Read post #2 of this thread for Steam FAQs and more.

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We appreciate you helping keep this thread up to date. The sales change virtually every day so no one person has the time to update them all. If you notice a game is no longer on sale, feel free to delete its line from the sale list. Of course, if you see a game is on sale, add it to the list. Make sure your changes match the thread's format! For example, every game that's on sale is part of an unordered list. When adding a game to the list, copy an existing line and update the link, title, and prices. That way, the format stays correct. Do not list percentages off! We list the original price and the sale price here. If you have any suggestions for major changes to the post/thread, PM me (EastX) about them.
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Steam Games and DLC on Sale - Updated 8/9



Daily Deal(s)

Midweek Madness Deal(s)

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Weekend Deal(s)

Other Deals
Steam Games on Sale Elsewhere - Updated 8/9



Amazon

  • Amazon - Current Deals
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GamersGate
Greenman Gaming

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Preorder Deals - Updated 8/9
Group Buys - Updated 8/14

Several multiplayer Steam games are available in 2-packs or 4-packs. These packs offer a discount over buying multiple copies of a game separately. We also maintain group buy trade threads for several games, so please use those threads if you're interested in setting up a group buy.

Free Stuff - Updated 4/3

There are several free games and mods on Steam. These are a few choice ones; you can find a full list here. Note that free games are not permanently attached to your Steam account like actual purchases would be. You'll need to manually download a game again from the website if you uninstall it.

Steam around CAG

If you are interested in joining the Steam CAG Community or participating in a trade or group buy with fellow Cheap Ass Gamers, please do so in the dedicated threads and not in the deal discussion thread. In the dedicated threads you will find CAGers with the same specialized interest who will be much quicker (and happier) to respond than in the Deals thread.

Past Special Sales

Visit www.steamgamesales.com to check previous sale prices on Steam games. We do keep track of some older sales here though:

Steam Retail Key List

What is a CD key and where can I find it?

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-WUSF-3601

The CD Key is a serial number with a combination of 13, 18, or 25 letters and numbers - it can be found on a sticker inside your game's case or printed on the game's quick reference card.
The CD Key acts as your proof of purchase for the game - Steam Support may ask for it if you need to establish your ownership of an account. It is recommended that you keep your CD Key in a safe place to ensure the security of your account.

Which retail CD Keys are accepted on Steam?



All retail Valve games and a number of third-party games can be registered to your Steam account. All of the following games can be registered through Steam:
  • Valve CD Keys in this format: ####-#####-####
  • Valve CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Valve CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • AI War CD Keys in various formats
  • Aliens vs. Predator (2010 Release) CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Alpha Prime CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Audiosurf CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • BRINK CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is not accepted on Steam
  • Cities in Motion CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Civilization V CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Commander: Conquest of the Americas CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Cricket Revolution CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Dark Messiah CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Dark Messiah CD Keys may also have been printed incorrectly, please see the Dark Messiah article
  • Darksiders CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Note: The number 2 and letter Z may look very similar.
  • Dawn of War II CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Dawn of War II - Retribution CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • Defense Grid CD Keys in this format (Direct2Drive only): 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Duke Nukem Forever CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Dungeons and Dragons: Daggerdale in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • Empire: Total War CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-DDEFGH3-IJK4L-MNOPQ-RST56
  • F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • F.E.A.R. 3 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • Fallout: New Vegas CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Football Manager 2009 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2CD3FGH456I7JK8LMNOP9Q
  • Football Manager 2010 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2CD3FGH456I7JK8LMNOP9Q
  • Football Manager 2011 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Front Mission Evolved CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Global Agenda CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Note: Keys purchased directly from the Global Agenda website cannot be registered on Steam.
  • GTI Racing CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • GTR Evolution CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Homefront CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • Humble Indie Bundle in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Humble Indie Bundle 2 in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Humble Indie Bundle 3 in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Just Cause 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Note: Please input all O's and 0's as Q's for Just Cause 2
  • Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Killing Floor CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • King Arthur - The Role-playing Wargame CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Lara Croft Guardian of Light CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • The Last Remnant CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Lionheart: Kings' Crusade CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Lost Planet: Colonies Edition CD Keys are not accepted on Steam
  • Mafia 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Magicka CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Metro 2033 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • MLB Front Office Manager CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Mount & Blade CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Mount & Blade: Warband CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7
  • NBA 2K9 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Napoleon: Total War CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Order of War CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Prey CD Keys in this format: AAB1BB2C345CDD6E E7
  • R.U.S.E. CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Note: R.U.S.E. keys from Ubisoft's Digital River service are not accepted on Steam
  • RACE - the WTCC Game CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • RACE 07 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Ragdoll Kung Fu CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Railworks CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Red Orchestra CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Rogue Warrior CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • SiN Episodes: Emergence CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Saint's Row 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Serious Sam HD CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Shattered Horizon CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • The Ship CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Ship Simulator Extremes CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Silent Hill Homecoming CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Sniper: Ghost Warrior CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Space Trader CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Speedball 2 - Tournament in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Star Trek: D-A-C CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • STCC - The Game CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Super Meat Boy CD keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Supreme Commander 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Torchlight CD Keys in this format: 1ABC-D3FG-4567-JK8L
  • Note: Only keys purchased directly from Runic Games or Perfect World prior to May 19th, 2010 can be registered on Steam.
  • Total War: SHOGUN 2 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Unreal Tournament 3 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2-3FGH-456I-K8LM
  • Velvet Assassin CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings in this format: AB-1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM
  • Worldwide Soccer Manager 2009 CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
  • X3: Terran Conflict CD Keys in this format: 1ABC-D3FG-4567-JK8L
  • Zeno Clash CD Keys in this format: 1AB2C-D3FGH-456I7-JK8LM-NOP9Q
Opposing Force CD-keys cannot be registered through Steam. Opposing Force was included in a retail Half-Life package. The Half-Life CD-key included in the package will unlock all of the games in that package, including Opposing Force.
Note: Only the retail games listed above can be registered through Steam. No other retail games can be registered and downloaded using Steam.

Other Keys that can be redeemed on Steam (CAG tested & verified)
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The Ball (bought @D2D and tested by voken)
Supreme Commander Forged Alliance (gives both FA and original, bought @amazon and tested by vism)

Summer Sale 2012

Daily Deals

Daily Deals 7/12
  • Legend of Grimrock - $14.99 $5.99
  • Crusader Kings II - $39.99 $9.99
  • Terraria - $9.99 $2.49
  • Indie Bundle I - $39.99 $9.99
    Contains:
    • Anomaly: Warzone Earth
    • Cave Story+
    • Edge
    • Lone Survivor
    • The Baconing
  • Might and Magic Pack - $104.94 $29.99
    Contains:
    • Dark Messiah Might and Magic
    • Heroes of Might and Magic V
      • Heroes of Might and Magic V: Hammers of Fate
      • Heroes of Might and Magic V: Tribes of the East
    • Might & Magic Clash of Heroes
    • Might & Magic Heroes VI


Daily Deals 7/13

Daily Deals 7/14

Daily Deals 7/15

Daily Deals 7/16

Daily Deals 7/17


Daily Deals 7/18

Daily Deals 7/19

Daily Deals 7/20

Daily Deals 7/21

Daily Deals 7/22
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Community Choice Winners


Flash Sales


Publisher Packs


  • MumboJumbo Collection - $79.99 $34.99
    • 7 Wonders II
    • 7 Wonders: Treasure of Seven
    • Chainz 2: Relinked
    • Discovery! A Seek and Find Adventure
    • Glowfish
    • Little Farm
    • Luxor
    • Luxor 2
    • Luxor 3
    • Luxor Amun Rising
    • Luxor Evolved
    • Luxor: 5th Passage
    • Luxor: Mah Jong
    • Luxor: Quest for the Afterlife
    • Midnight Mysteries
    • Midnight Mysteries 2: Salem Witch Trials
    • Midnight Mysteries 3: Devil on the Mississippi
    • Midnight Mysteries 4: Haunted Houdini
    • Pickers
    • Reaxxion
    • Samantha Swift and the Golden Touch
    • Samantha Swift and the Hidden Roses of Athena
    • Zombie Bowl-o-Rama
  • 2K Collection - $219.92 $49.99
    • BioShock 2
    • Borderlands
    • Duke Nukem Forever
    • Mafia II
    • Sid Meier's Civilization V
    • Spec Ops: The Line
    • The Darkness II
  • PopCap Complete Pack - $99.99 $49.99
    • Amazing Adventures Around the World
    • Amazing Adventures The Lost Tomb
    • AstroPop Deluxe
    • Bejeweled 2 Deluxe
    • Bejeweled Deluxe
    • Bejeweled Twist
    • Bejeweled 3
    • Big Money! Deluxe
    • Bookworm Adventures Deluxe
    • Bookworm Deluxe
    • Bookworm Adventures Volume 2
    • Chuzzle Deluxe
    • Dynomite Deluxe
    • Escape Rosecliff Island
    • Feeding Frenzy 2 Deluxe
    • Hammer Heads Deluxe
    • Heavy Weapon Deluxe
    • Iggle Pop Deluxe
    • Insaniquarium Deluxe
    • Mystery P.I. - Lost in Los Angeles
    • Mystery P.I. - The Lottery Ticket
    • Mystery P.I. - The New York Fortune
    • Mystery P.I. - The Vegas Heist
    • Peggle Deluxe
    • Peggle Nights
    • Pizza Frenzy Deluxe
    • Plants vs. Zombies GOTY Edition
    • Rocket Mania Deluxe
    • Talismania Deluxe
    • The Wizard's Pen
    • Typer Shark! Deluxe
    • Venice Deluxe
    • Zuma Deluxe
    • Zuma's Revenge!
  • 1C Collection - $327.62 $49.99
    • Cryostasis
    • King's Bounty: Armored Princess
    • King's Bounty: Crossworlds
    • King's Bounty: The Legend
    • Men of War
    • Men of War: Assault Squad
      • MP Supply Pack Alpha
      • MP Supply Pack Bravo
      • MP Supply Pack Charlie
      • Skirmish Pack
    • Men of War: Condemned Heroes
    • Men of War: Red Tide
    • Men of War: Vietnam
      • Special Edition Upgrade Pack
    • NecroVision
    • NecroVision: Lost Company
    • Rig n Roll
    • Space Rangers 2: Reboot
    • Theatre of War 3: Korea
  • Strategy First Collection - $99.99 $49.99
    • 688 (I) Hunter/Killer
    • 9th Company: Roots of Terror
    • Ankh 2: Heart of Osiris
    • Ankh 3: Battle of the Gods
    • Armada 2526
    • Bad Rats: The Rat's Revenge
    • BC Kings
    • Birth of America
    • Chocolatier: Decadence by Design
    • Cooking Dash
    • Culpa Innata
    • Dangerous Waters
    • Dark Fall: Lost Souls
    • Darkstar One
    • Deep Black: Reloaded
    • Diaper Dash
    • Dimensity
    • Diner Dash: Hometown Hero
    • DinerTown Detective Agency
    • DinerTown Tycoon
    • Disciples II: Gallean's Return
    • Disciples II: Rise of the Elves
    • Dream Chronicles: The Chosen Child
    • Ducati World Championship
    • Emerald City Confidential
    • Exodus from the Earth
    • Fireburst
    • Fitness Dash
    • FlatOut
    • FlatOut 2
    • FlatOut 3: Chaos & Destruction
    • FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage
    • Fleet Command
    • Gemini Lost
    • Ghost Master
    • Hazen: The Dark Whispers
    • Hotel Dash Suite Success
    • Iron Warriors: T-72 Tank Command
    • Ironclads: American Civil War
    • Ironclads: Anglo Russian War 1866
    • Ironclads: Chincha Islands War 1866
    • Ironclads: High Seas
    • Ironclads: Schleswig War 1864
    • Jack Keane
    • Jagged Alliance 2 Gold: Unfinished Business
    • Jagged Alliance 2: Gold Pack
    • Mahjong Roadshow
    • Making History: The Calm & the Storm
    • Nightshift Legacy: The Jaguar's Eye
    • Parking Dash
    • Patrician III
    • Perimeter 2: New Earth
    • Port Royale 2
    • Puzzle Kingdoms
    • Razor2: Hidden Skies
    • Sacred Gold
    • Space Empires IV Deluxe
    • Space Empires V
    • Sub Command
    • The Great Art Race
    • The Nightshift Code
    • TriJinx: A Kristine Kross Mystery
    • Valerie Porter and the Scarlet Scandal
    • Vegas: Make It Big
    • Wandering Willows
    • Wedding Dash 2: Rise Around the World
    • World Basketball Manager 2010
    • Zenerchi
    • Zombie Pirates
  • Paradox Collection - $272.72 $49.99
    • Crusader Kings II
    • Defenders of Ardania
    • Europa Universalis III Complete
    • Europa Universalis III: Divine Wind
    • Europa Universalis III: Heir to the Throne
    • Gettysburg: Armored Warfare
    • Magicka
      • Final Frontier
      • Frozen Lake
      • Gamer Bundle
      • Holiday Spirit Item Pack
      • Horror Props Item Pack
      • Lonely Island Cruise
      • Marshlands
      • Nippon
      • Party Robes
      • The Other Side of the Coin
      • The Stars are Left
      • The Watchtower
      • Vietnam
      • Wizard's Survival Kit
    • Mount & Blade
    • Mount & Blade: Warband
      • Napoleonic Wars
    • Mount & Blade: With Fire & Sword
    • Naval War: Arctic Circle
    • Swords of the Stars II: Lords of Winter
    • Warlock - Master of the Arcane
  • Activision Hits Collection - $169.91 $49.99
    • Blur
    • Call of Duty
    • Call of Duty 2
    • Call of Duty: United Offensive
    • Gun
    • Prototype
    • Singularity
    • TimeShift
    • Transformers: War for Cybertron
    • Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
  • Super id Software Pack - $99.99 $49.99
    • Commander Keen
    • Doom 3
    • Doom 3 Resurrection of Evil
    • Doom II
    • Masters Levels for Doom II
    • Final Doom
    • The Ultimate Doom
    • Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders
    • HeXen II
    • HeXen: Beyond Heretic
    • HeXen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
    • Quake
    • Quake II
    • Quake II Mission Pack: Ground Zero
    • Quake II MIssion Pack: The Reckoning
    • Quake III
    • Quake III: Team Arena
    • Quake IV
    • Quake Mission Pack 1: Scourge of Armagon
    • Quake Mission Pack 2: Dissolution of Eternity
    • Rage
    • Return to Castle Wolfenstein
    • Spear of Destiny
    • Wolfenstein 3D
  • Bethesda Collection - $179.87 $49.99
    • Brink
      • Agents of Change
      • Doom/Psycho Combo Pack
      • Fallout/SpecOps Combo Pack
    • Fallout: New Vegas
      • Dead Money
      • Honest Hearts
      • Old World Blues
      • Courier's Stash
      • Gun Runner's Arsenal
      • Lonesome Road
    • Hunted: The Demon's Forge
    • The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
  • Star Wars Collection - $99.99 $49.99
    • Star Wars Battlefront II
    • Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
    • Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
    • Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
    • Star Wars Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
    • Star Wars Republic Commando
    • Star Wars Starfighter
    • Star Wars The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes
    • Star Wars The Force Unleashed: Ultimate Sith Edition
    • Star Wars The Force Unleashed II
    • Star Wars: Dark Forces
    • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    • Star Wars Empire at War: Gold Pack
  • Rockstar Hit Collection - $119.96 $49.99
    • Grand Theft Auto IV
    • Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City
    • L.A. Noire
    • Max Payne 3
  • Focus Hit Collection - $279.83 $49.99
    • A Game of Thrones - Genesis
    • Blood Bowl Legendary Edition
    • Cities XL 2012
    • Runaway: A Road Adventure
    • Runaway: The Dream of the Turtle
    • Runaway: A Twist of Fate
    • Sherlock Holmes versus Jack the Ripper
    • The Next BIG Thing
    • Wargame: European Escalation
      • Conquest (Free DLC)
    • Yesterday
  • Kalypso Collection - $99.99 $49.99
    • Airline Tycoon 2
    • Bang Bang Racing
    • Disciples III - Renaissance Steam Special Edition
    • Disciples III - Resurrection
    • Dungeons - Steam Special Edition
    • Dungeons - The Dark Lord
    • Jagged Alliance - Back in Action
    • Port Royale 3
    • SkyDrift
    • Tropico 3 - Steam Special Edition
    • Tropico 4 - Steam Special Edition
  • Ubisoft Collection - $99.99 $49.99
    • Assassin's Creed: Revelations
    • Beyond Good and Evil
    • Drive San Francisco
    • From Dust
    • Might & Magic Heroes VI
    • R.U.S.E.
    • Rayman Origins
    • Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction
  • Nordic Hit Collection - $122.27 $49.99
    • AquaNox
    • AquaNox 2: Revelation
    • Arcania
    • Arcania: Fall of Setarrif
    • Aura: Fate of the Ages
    • Chaser
    • Genesis Rising
    • Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods - Enhanced Edition
    • Gothic II: Gold Edition
    • Gothic 3
    • Painkiller: Overdose
    • Painkiller: Redemption
    • Painkiller: Black Edition
    • Painkiller: Recurring Evil
    • Painkiller: Resurrection
    • Safecracker: The Ultimate Puzzle Adventure
    • SpaceForce Rogue Universe
    • SpellForce - Platinum Edition
    • SpellForce 2: Faith in Destiny
    • SpellForce 2: Gold Edition
    • The Guild II
    • The Guild II - Pirates of the European Seas
    • The Guild II Renaissance
  • Railworks 3 Collection - $239.92 $49.99
    • Railworks 3: Train Simulator 2012
      • 4CIG Southern Add-On
      • Class 325 Add-On
      • Cologne - Dusseldorf Add-On
      • Horseshow Curve Expansion Pack
      • London to Brighton Add-On
      • PRR K4 Steam Locomotive Add-On
      • Settle to Carlisle Add-On
      • UK Buildings Model Pack (Free DLC)
  • Cyan Complete Pack - $29.99 $14.99
    • Cosmic Osmo and the Worlds Beyond the Mackerel
    • Myst V
    • Myst: Masterpiece Edition
    • realMYST
    • Riven: The Sequel to MYST
    • Spelunx and the Caves of Mr. Seudo
    • The Manhole: Masterpiece Edition
    • URU: Complete Chronicles
  • Square Enix Hit Collection - $237.71 $49.99
    • Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition
    • Deus Ex: Human Revolution
      • Explosive Mission Pack
      • Tactical Enhancement Pack
      • The Missing Link
    • Deus Ex: Invisible War
    • Hitman 2: Silent Assassin
    • Hitman: Blood Money
    • Hitman: Codename 47
    • Just Cause 2 + All DLC
    • Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light
      • All the Trappings - Challenge Pack 1
      • Things That Go Boom - Challenge Pack 2
      • Hazardous Reunion - Challenge Pack 3
      • Raziel and Kain Character Pack
    • Quantum Conundrum
    • Thief Gold
    • Thied II: The Metal Age
    • Thief: Deadly Shadows
    • Tomb Raider: Anniversary
    • Tomb Raider: Legend
    • Tomb Raider: Underworld
  • Valve Complete Pack - $99.99 $49.99
    • Counter-Strike
    • Counter-Strike: Condition Zero
    • Counter-Strike: Condition Zero Deleted Scenes
    • Counter-Strike: Source
    • Day of Defeat
    • Day of Defeat: Source
    • Deathmatch Classic
    • Half-Life
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Reasons for hating GFWL

It is extra DRM that is done piss poor
The client glitches out and does constant updating over and over (usually of the same update)
Your saved game is tied to if you choose to play the game online or offline and you can't go both ways, so if you start playing a game while on, then the next day want to play offline you can't use your same save game.
Activating DLC is simply retarded


Note, there are more things and some of these wont pertain to some games I don't think. I personally have not had problems with it (outside of the DLC activation, might as well just cook meth instead, it'd be easier). But my friend has had nothing but constant problems with it, from just getting the shitting client to actually update, then playing the game and finding out he is SOL with his save, because of this stuff he will never ever touch a game with it again regardless of how much he wants the game (for example, he really wanted Dark Souls as he played it some when I had it when it came out but doesn't own a PS3 and now he is thinking of just buying a PS3 instead because it is GFWL)
 
On GFWL, I had an issue where I would disconnect from the service every 10 minutes, which made playing anything coop or mp impossible. I contacted support and they flat out told me they wouldn't help me because I wasn't using a 360.
 
[quote name='plft']I just have a feeling that the lazy port is so it won't sell well and therefore can point to it to show that PC games don't sell.[/QUOTE]

It honestly wouldn't surprise me. Between Dark Souls and the horribly botched FF7 re-release that Square tried to do on their own with their own client AND limited activations securom even though they own Eidos who has done many successful Steam launches makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with the Japanese and why they even bother with the PC sometimes when they just fail at is so hard.

[quote name='plft']On GFWL, I had an issue where I would disconnect from the service every 10 minutes, which made playing anything coop or mp impossible. I contacted support and they flat out told me they wouldn't help me because I wasn't using a 360.[/QUOTE]

This pretty much exemplifies the issue. The 360 is Microsoft's gaming cash cow and everyone knows it. They half ass'ed GFWL, it's glitchy for a lot of people, unnecessary and redudant to have on Steam and Microsoft does not have a huge motivation to improve it because it's not making them much money.

It's basically there so console developers can use part of the 360 code to do a half assed lazy PC port.

There's a reason why companies like Bethesda who obviously have a strong relationship with Microsoft to the point of doing exclusive periods on their DLC don't use GFWL in the PC version of their games even though it would be the easier thing to do.
 
[quote name='sunghost']I've heard the opposite for Magicka DLC maps, that only the host needs the maps, and everyone else that joins can play on them.[/QUOTE]

I recall this being true as well, my friend and I were able to play together when I hosted maps that he did not own. Not sure if anything has changed since then though, so I would double check on the Magicka forums.
 
[quote name='Motoki']re: Magicka

Out of curiousity, how does the DLC work with multiplayer? That game has so darned much DLC would there problems like if one person has Star Trek outfits they can't play with somebody else who doesn't, etc?[/QUOTE]

Because it is Steamworks, all players, regardless of content purchased, have all of the content loaded locally. Thus the game has the assets available to render other players. The developer can simply allow whatever combinations of compatibility they want, and if they are smart, make it as flexible as possible to entice other players to pick up DLC.
 
[quote name='sunghost']I've heard the opposite for Magicka DLC maps, that only the host needs the maps, and everyone else that joins can play on them.[/QUOTE]

Weird, I always had issues when friends tried to join me back when I played it when they didn't have the maps. I stopped playing right after Vietnam though. Oh well, that's always better if it works that way.
 
[quote name='Draekon']Weird, I always had issues when friends tried to join me back when I played it when they didn't have the maps. Oh well, that's always better if it works that way.[/QUOTE]

Magicka has really crappy netcode.. so it could've been that, unless it specifically gave you an error message saying they didn't have the maps so they couldn't join or something. Or maybe they changed how it works, no idea.
 
The only game with GFWL that I have had an issue with is The Club. I had it working prior to having to restore my system due to a dumbass mistake on my part, by since restoring my system I can't get the stupid thing to update. I have read tons of shit online, but it still won't work. I know, it is The Club, so not like it is a major loss, but still, I actually enjoy that game lol.
 
[quote name='Spyder187']The only game with GFWL that I have had an issue with is The Club. I had it working prior to having to restore my system due to a dumbass mistake on my part, by since restoring my system I can't get the stupid thing to update. I have read tons of shit online, but it still won't work. I know, it is The Club, so not like it is a major loss, but still, I actually enjoy that game lol.[/QUOTE]

I think I had a problem with Arkham Asylum but it was because I tried to run the game without updating the GWfL client first and because I had an older version of GWfL, the game wouldn't run in "online" mode. All I had to do was update GWfL and the problem was fixed.

I guess I've been lucky but I haven't had any other problems with it.
 
[quote name='sunghost']Magicka has really crappy netcode.. so it could've been that, unless it specifically gave you an error message saying they didn't have the maps so they couldn't join or something. Or maybe they changed how it works, no idea.[/QUOTE]

You assume that programmers would code intelligently like that. Never count on seeing that. It's more often than not a generic "Unable to join." error. I wish creating software and games had some kind of basic standards system so they'd suck just a bit less. Though the copyright system in the US is really holding something like that back.
 
[quote name='Dr Sasquatch']Anyone know if I buy Sleeping Dogs from Green Man Gaming will I get the Team Fortress 2 pre-order items?[/QUOTE]

You won't.
 
[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Remember, you two, that you can go in on a 4-pack and get it for $3.75 a piece. BUY IT!! Especially you, zillion
[/QUOTE]

Alright, alright, twist my arm, why don't you. :razz: I don't have/use a mic, though.
 
I'm really close to getting Airline Tycoon. I like those silly simulator games and I know it's not Garbage Truck Simulator but still it might scratch the simulator itch.

[quote name='zillionandnine']Alright, alright, twist my arm, why don't you. :razz: I don't have/use a mic, though.[/QUOTE]

You know, I drank the Kool Aid and got the damned thing from CAGKrazy.

If you asked me what the least appealing game I could think of would be I can honestly say a semi-realistic FPS set in the modern day where you play the bad guy while wearing a friggin clown mask would be just about the least appealing sort of game to me that I can come up with.

But the peer pressure (and kazillion sales) was just too much and the bard is such a pusher. :lol:

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re: Sleeping Dogs pre-order from GMG not giving the TF2 items
[quote name='Dr Sasquatch']Thanks! Guess I will wait for the price to drop.[/QUOTE]

On the plus side, you won't have to worry about constantly being IM'ed by strange Russians harrasing you to trade your TF hats and junk to them.
 
English Country Tune is now on Steam and 10% off ($4.49) until August 16th.

English Country Tune is a luxuriant abstract 3D puzzle game brought to you by increpare, the first commercial project of a developer who's brought you nearly 200 freeware games to date. Over the course of more than a hundred levels situated throughout 17 worlds, you'll become acquainted with a wide variety of very different mechanics,...
Genre: Indie
 
[quote name='Spyder187']I know, I just knowwwww I am gonna catch hell for this, but why is there so much hate towards the GFWL service? I personally have not had that much of an issue with it myself. Is it just because it is an added DRM, because it's Microsoft, or because it is the cool thing to do?[/QUOTE]

Yes, yes, sure. I wish those were the only problems.

Here are more glaring issues: Clunky interface, save file and game file corruption, games refusing to run, updates can be a nightmare, etc.


[quote name='Motoki']Oh Sophita, I just knew you were going to come to the rescue of Dark Souls. :D

Gameplay is more important than graphics to me to a point. I'll pay $3 or $5 for a casual game running on 1990s resolutions, sure. But this is 2012 and I'm not paying $40 for some lazy port done by clueless Japanese that really should have outsourced it because they didn't know what the hell they were doing.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, I don't even have a problem playing a game from the 90's how it originally looking cause at the time it was cutting edge. A 2012 game for 30 or 40 bucks should not be stuck in low res and a low capped FPS due to the ineptitude of the developer in coding for the pc.

[quote name='Sophita']:D Well you don't need to spend 40$ on it and honestly if it is bad as they I will just stick to my PS3 copy as well. Just hoping they are rumors and also if they aren't hoping modders pick it up and or can pick it up and improve on the game even if it means a loss of the online(I mean look at STALKER that game was amazing just because of unoffical patches and mods same with Vampire:Bloodlines,and also Oblivion) which i've never been concerned with anyways in the game; other than the cool way in how you can leave hints for other players. Just with so much gloom figure i'd try and bring up the positives of the game.

Besides like you said, at the very least the game is worth it at the 5-10$ range. I mean that's like 18 wheels of steel price range :cool:[/QUOTE]

$5-10 is the sweet spot for this game. If the locked res and fps cap can be modded or if the modding community takes off then the value increases exponentially.

[quote name='Motoki']I don't know if modders can fix the internal resolution thing. Maybe, but that's a lot tougher than something like just swapping out textures. We'll see I guess.

I don't understand why they didn't just let the Eastern Europeans do the port like they did with Ninja Blade, which reminds me I got that from Indie Gala a while back and need to install it and give it a go.[/QUOTE]

Right, we shall see.

Anyone know any examples of modders fixing a locked internal resolution for a game?

Too bad that bundle didn't come with a Steam code for Ninja Blade. I still want to try that game.
 
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[quote name='Motoki']Oh Sophita, I just knew you were going to come to the rescue of Dark Souls. :D

Gameplay is more important than graphics to me to a point. I'll pay $3 or $5 for a casual game running on 1990s resolutions, sure. But this is 2012 and I'm not paying $40 for some lazy port done by clueless Japanese that really should have outsourced it because they didn't know what the hell they were doing.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, I don't even have a problem playing a game from the 90's how it originally looking cause at the time it was cutting edge. A 2012 game for 30 or 40 bucks should not be stuck in low res and a low capped FPS due to the ineptitude of the developer in coding for the pc.

[quote name='Sophita']:D Well you don't need to spend 40$ on it and honestly if it is bad as they I will just stick to my PS3 copy as well. Just hoping they are rumors and also if they aren't hoping modders pick it up and or can pick it up and improve on the game even if it means a loss of the online(I mean look at STALKER that game was amazing just because of unoffical patches and mods same with Vampire:Bloodlines,and also Oblivion) which i've never been concerned with anyways in the game; other than the cool way in how you can leave hints for other players. Just with so much gloom figure i'd try and bring up the positives of the game.

Besides like you said, at the very least the game is worth it at the 5-10$ range. I mean that's like 18 wheels of steel price range :cool:[/QUOTE]

$5-10 is the sweet spot for this game. If the locked res and fps cap can be modded or if the modding community takes off then the value increases exponentially.

[quote name='Motoki']I don't know if modders can fix the internal resolution thing. Maybe, but that's a lot tougher than something like just swapping out textures. We'll see I guess.

I don't understand why they didn't just let the Eastern Europeans do the port like they did with Ninja Blade, which reminds me I got that from Indie Gala a while back and need to install it and give it a go.[/QUOTE]

Right, we shall see.

Anyone know any examples of modders fixing a locked internal resolution for a game?

Too bad that bundle didn't come with a Steam code for Ninja Blade. I still want to try that game.
 
[quote name='Showstoppa42']I might be tempted if they run the Tropico 4 bundle again. I hate that these big bundles never seem to include all the DLC.

So while I while I was waiting for Steam to update, I came across this:

http://storybundle.com/

"Welcome to StoryBundle! We're featuring our first bundle, the Big Bang Bundle, where you can get seven fantastic ebooks at one low pay-what-you-want price."

Completely off-topic, but it might be interesting to somebody. And no, ebooks do not activate no Steam. ;)[/QUOTE]

Now I know you're not supposed to judge a book my its cover, but I don't know what it is about most scifi/fantasy covers, they just turn me off. Don't get me wrong I do like those genres, albeit a bit picky about them, but sometimes the covers just seem so unappealing (like now) that I won't even flip the book open to read the inside flap.

[quote name='plft']It's only the 4th time this year it's been this price. Four times last year as well, though one of them was shared between both years.
http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/42910/magicka

Correction, that hasn't been updated for today yet, FIFTH time this year it's 75% off.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='pROvIs']It's for all those people that passed the first 954345 times.[/QUOTE]

Its a conspiracy, haven't you heard? :shock:

[quote name='asheskitty']Oh nice, thanks for that link. BTW you already broke the golden rule of lurking, you made an account.


I've debated a 360 a number of times, there's just so much PC overlap this generation, that I haven't found a compelling reason to. Not like my still treasured PS2 slim.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, coming from someone who owns all three major consoles of this gen, there is very little reason to get one if you're a PC gamer. If there was one to debate on I'd say stick with sony and get the PS3, better variety of exclusives, not to mention more of them. There is no reason to get a 360, unless you're into the few exclusives they have left, or *giggle* want a kinect.
 
[quote name='louiedog']English Country Tune is now on Steam and 10% off ($4.49) until August 16th.

English Country Tune is a luxuriant abstract 3D puzzle game brought to you by increpare, the first commercial project of a developer who's brought you nearly 200 freeware games to date. Over the course of more than a hundred levels situated throughout 17 worlds, you'll become acquainted with a wide variety of very different mechanics,...
Genre: Indie[/QUOTE]

I'm such a sucker for puzzle games, no matter how hard they hurt my brain. Going on my wishlist. I swear, this game is only $5 dollars and I'm still too cheap to buy it. What have you guys done to me?! ;)
 
[quote name='Leftylikesgames']I'm such a sucker for puzzle games, no matter how hard they hurt my brain. Going on my wishlist. I swear, this game is only $5 dollars and I'm still too cheap to buy it. What have you guys done to me?! ;)[/QUOTE]
This game sounds perfect for an indie bundle. Just saying ;).
 
Just tried Bang Bang racing and definitely not my thing. Top down RC racer basically. The controls aren't very intuitive IMO. If you are going left to right on a track the left and right directional button coincides with left and right as you sort of would see it on the screen. If you happen to be going up to down on a track it you realize the left and right buttons are mapped to the drivers perspective and not yours, so when you are driving up to down it feels the the controls get reversed. Probably like that in all racers this style, but I do not like it.
 
[quote name='Motoki']
You know, I drank the Kool Aid and got the damned thing from CAGKrazy.

If you asked me what the least appealing game I could think of would be I can honestly say a semi-realistic FPS set in the modern day where you play the bad guy while wearing a friggin clown mask would be just about the least appealing sort of game to me that I can come up with.

But the peer pressure (and kazillion sales) was just too much and the bard is such a pusher. :lol:
[/QUOTE]

I feel so influential
 
[quote name='Leftylikesgames']Honestly, coming from someone who owns all three major consoles of this gen, there is very little reason to get one if you're a PC gamer. If there was one to debate on I'd say stick with sony and get the PS3, better variety of exclusives, not to mention more of them. There is no reason to get a 360, unless you're into the few exclusives they have left, or *giggle* want a kinect.[/QUOTE]


I own all three as well along with Kinect and Move. I do use the Kinect and Move for sports games but little else. I play the PS3 the most but prefer the Xbox controller. I hate the idea of paying extra money to access apps like Netflix that I already have to subscribe to so I use the PS3 for streaming Netflix and Amazon Video instead of the Xbox. I have a small collection of blu-ray movies so there is another use for the PS3. If I didn't enjoy Mario Kart so much I would not have much need for the Wii although I do co-op on it with friends more than the PS3 and Xbox because they think the Wii is fun.

One of these days I will get a dedicated gaming/multimedia machine (I use a laptop right now for any PC gaming I do) and get rid of everything else. I can't imagine trying to fit it all in an RV anyway. :lol:
 
[quote name='plft']I just have a feeling that the lazy port is so it won't sell well and therefore can point to it to show that PC games don't sell.[/QUOTE]

You can count on that, if this does badly, That From and any other Japanese studio will use it as proof and reason to stay away from PC Games. Like I said in their minds playing devil's advocate they are, "Listening to the demand and bringing the game they petitioned for" Rather or not they understand why the demand suddenly dropped with GFWL and just a barebones port is a slim chance.

Instead they will simply hear all the other Japanese developers tell them,"Told you so! PC Gaming is dead" this will multiply by a hundred if Dark Souls ends up in the top pirated game as well as bombing. Thing is in Japan as I hear PC Gaming is viewed as like the very bottom of what to develop for due to all the audience there being on Consoles and Handhelds.

So bottom line, You can count on this game being THE example of why Japanese companies drop the idea of PC Games. If it bombs and is pirated to high haven. Rather or not that is fair when regards to the game's issues or not is another issue.
 
If they pitch it aggressively and cut it aggressively it will make bank. Even the mediocre Metro 2033 made money by routinely dropping to $5.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']This game sounds perfect for an indie bundle. Just saying ;).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I had that feeling too. Definitely not buying it now.

[quote name='Palinn']I own all three as well along with Kinect and Move. I do use the Kinect and Move for sports games but little else. I play the PS3 the most but prefer the Xbox controller. I hate the idea of paying extra money to access apps like Netflix that I already have to subscribe to so I use the PS3 for streaming Netflix and Amazon Video instead of the Xbox. I have a small collection of blu-ray movies so there is another use for the PS3. If I didn't enjoy Mario Kart so much I would not have much need for the Wii although I do co-op on it with friends more than the PS3 and Xbox because they think the Wii is fun.

One of these days I will get a dedicated gaming/multimedia machine (I use a laptop right now for any PC gaming I do) and get rid of everything else. I can't imagine trying to fit it all in an RV anyway. :lol:[/QUOTE]

I have to confess, I own a kinect too, though it was a gift, which makes me feel even more guilty that I haven't used it much besides the odd mini/sports game and voice commands for ME3. I do know a lot of people prefer the 360 controller, especially men, and I can see why. Personally I don't have a preference, although the wireless ones always seem so damn heavy coming off of using a PS controller.

Yeah, I should have mentioned the Bluray player and free use of streaming apps like netflix. Also, free multiplayer. I myself don't see any reason to subscribe to their gold membership, unless you like multiplayer and have a large majority of your friends on there.

edit: And now back to the steam sales...
 
Surprising that Indie Royale didn't drop today. Looking at the title of the next bundle again, "Gone Fishin' Bundle," I'm hoping it's a bunch of water-themed simulation games just for Motoki.
 
I'm actually happy that Maple Story finally found its way to Steam. That game did a number on your computer sometimes, refused to uninstall, something about making your mouse not pick up in some cases, etc. Nice to see it streamlined into the Steam client.

(Don't even bother with the Starter and Value Packs though. That's a lot of useless crap for too much money. $5 for a 90-day pet may be a bit cheaper than it is in game though.)

And I feel like a real cheapass saying it, but I wish that Story Bundle thing let you pay a penny. I'd grab them for that, but a dollar for a handful of indie books that no one has ever heard of? Just not for me I guess, ah well. The writers do deserve to be paid more for their work though (I'm a writer and I know how hard it can be sometimes).
 
[quote name='BrolyB593']Speaking of past mods, the new Natural Selection II is looking really good.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, can't wait to have to shell money out for it!

[quote name='randomdud']Which version of Half-life 1 are you modifying? If it's the source re-release, you can try the Source Multiplayer Dedicated Server tool. I think that would solve your issues, but I haven't messed with that much in recent months. If that doesn't work, you might need to set a static IP for the host and pass that out, or just use Hamachi/Tungle/etc.[/QUOTE]
Well actually the problem is occurring with both Source and Half-Life mods... I tried using the console and just connecting directly to friend's IP, and that didn't work either. I know Hamachi would be easy, and solve everything, but I just don't wanna use such a "user" program. I have my own VPN, if I end up having to resort to Hamachi, I'd just rather go through the trouble of teaching all friends about VPNs and how to connect to mine. Translation, there will be too many people that just don't get it and I'll be forced to conform and use something like Hamachi.

[quote name='Recon116']Just Cause 2 multiplayer is having another public beta this weekend.

http://www.jc-mp.com/[/QUOTE]
Yep, changelog makes it seem like its gonna be even awesomer! I wonder if the syncing weapons means PvP?

[quote name='Recon116']Apparently Nexuiz is having a free weekend. It just showed up in my library. It's 75% off at $2.50.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/96800/[/QUOTE]
Ya! I can finally get the game, that the steamgifts jerk never sent me, on the cheap!

[quote name='Spyder187']I know, I just knowwwww I am gonna catch hell for this, but why is there so much hate towards the GFWL service? I personally have not had that much of an issue with it myself. Is it just because it is an added DRM, because it's Microsoft, or because it is the cool thing to do?[/QUOTE]
Honostly, never had issues with GFWL. As I said before (long way back now) the only game that gave me trouble was Halo 2...but that was only because it uses a WAY outdated GFWL and you can solve the problem by just making sure you install Halo 2 before installing any updated GFWL (as Halo 2 works fine if you update GFWL AFTER it). I think all the hate here comes from GFWL + Steam issues.

[quote name='KaOTiK']Your saved game is tied to if you choose to play the game online or offline and you can't go both ways, so if you start playing a game while on, then the next day want to play offline you can't use your same save game.[/QUOTE]
This a flat out libelous lie! If you took the time to learn anything, you'd know that GFWL save files typically exist in separate folders based on account. Meaning that all you have to do is copy (or hard link) you save files out of the folder for your online account into the account for your offline one (ie, the "account" made for the "user account" of the computer)

[quote name='louiedog']Free-to-Play Maple Story is now on Steam.[/QUOTE]
I was gonna come and say this. I've played literally 15 seconds of Maple Story way, way back; just didn't interest me. I plan on checking it out again though. It always had such polarizing reception.
 
[quote name='EarthBoundX5']I was gonna come and say this. I've played literally 15 seconds of Maple Story way, way back; just didn't interest me. I plan on checking it out again though. It always had such polarizing reception.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely not for everyone, and even if you do get into it, it's easy to get tired of the grinding that it comes with at later levels. Nexon does a pretty good job at adding new content on a VERY regular basis though, so if you're keen on keeping up with things, there's always something new to do (and level up doing).

It's one of the only side-scrolling Metroidvania style MMORPGs around, and that's probably the biggest reason I used to play the heck out of it. There's something more fulfilling about actually moving and jumping and attacking your enemies via your own skill rather than just clicking the enemy and watching your character trade blows with it until someone dies.

Besides that, it's a cutesy game, plain and simple. It's kind of a Pokemon thing I guess, where if you get past the cutesy aspect, you see that it's still a complex game in and of itself and is pretty well made.

(Of course it's also of note that it's a lot funner with friends. It's a VERY social game.)
 
I'm quite amused - I had forgotten about the Humble Music Bundle, and, humorously enough, it currently has less than 10 minutes to go. I really wasn't interested in most of the albums, but the Valkyria Chronicles "Best of" soundtrack was a bit too nice to pass up on. It's a good thing I grabbed it in time.
 
[quote name='Leftylikesgames']Honestly, coming from someone who owns all three major consoles of this gen, there is very little reason to get one if you're a PC gamer. If there was one to debate on I'd say stick with sony and get the PS3, better variety of exclusives, not to mention more of them. There is no reason to get a 360, unless you're into the few exclusives they have left, or *giggle* want a kinect.[/QUOTE]
:D Nice to hear. There's a few things on PS3 that interest me, but no one thing is yet able to push me over the console cost and my and the shackles of my PC gaming backlog. Oddly enough I last considered a 360 in December when I was shopping for a Kinect (for a robot sensor), wound up with just a Kinect for $100.

[quote name='CheapLikeAFox']Just tried Bang Bang racing and definitely not my thing. Top down RC racer basically. The controls aren't very intuitive IMO. If you are going left to right on a track the left and right directional button coincides with left and right as you sort of would see it on the screen. If you happen to be going up to down on a track it you realize the left and right buttons are mapped to the drivers perspective and not yours, so when you are driving up to down it feels the the controls get reversed. Probably like that in all racers this style, but I do not like it.[/QUOTE]
This has been common for top down whole-track-fits-on-screen racers going back to DOS days. Irritating if you are unable to project yourself into the vehicles's frame of reference. Oddly, driving games that don't fit on one screen Autoduel (1985) to Zombie Driver & Renegade Ops seems to use the push-in-desired-direction.

[quote name='Palinn']I own all three as well along with Kinect and Move. I do use the Kinect and Move for sports games but little else. I play the PS3 the most but prefer the Xbox controller. ...

One of these days I will get a dedicated gaming/multimedia machine (I use a laptop right now for any PC gaming I do) and get rid of everything else. I can't imagine trying to fit it all in an RV anyway. :lol:[/QUOTE]
>.> I've lived in less than 250 sq ft for over a decade. I know the feeling.

[quote name='Leftylikesgames']I have to confess, I own a kinect too, though it was a gift, which makes me feel even more guilty that I haven't used it much besides the odd mini/sports game and voice commands for ME3. I do know a lot of people prefer the 360 controller, especially men, and I can see why. Personally I don't have a preference, although the wireless ones always seem so damn heavy coming off of using a PS controller.[/QUOTE]
I've noticed the same. I have really short fingers, and prefer a DS2/3. The DS3 is incredibly featherweight compared to any controller in recent memory: DS2, 360, F510, Rumblepad 2.
 
[quote name='EliotAndrews']I'm quite amused - I had forgotten about the Humble Music Bundle, and, humorously enough, it currently has less than 10 minutes to go. I really wasn't interested in most of the albums, but the Valkyria Chronicles "Best of" soundtrack was a bit too nice to pass up on. It's a good thing I grabbed it in time.[/QUOTE]
It's about time for another humble bundle with games. I hope we'll see new humble entries in steam registry during next week.
 
[quote name='RollingSkull']If they pitch it aggressively and cut it aggressively it will make bank. Even the mediocre Metro 2033 made money by routinely dropping to $5.[/QUOTE]

That's true maybe their first real Steam Sale will open their eyes $.$ to how many people buy things in that 5$ range.
 
To everyone complaining about Magicka: this is the first time the "The Other Side of the Coin" expansion for Magicka has been on sale, and it's 75% off. So it's actually rather significant.

And just to clarify the multiplayer again: only one person in a game needs the map/expansion for everyone to be able to play it. I hate seeing people post false information about stuff like that.
 
[quote name='poxi']It's about time for another humble bundle with games. I hope we'll see new humble entries in steam registry during next week.[/QUOTE]
I was going to say that it'll be a while, but, in all honesty, they seem to be offering these bundles every few months now.

Initially, it was every 5-8 months, but it has steadily been decreasing with the assistance of "alternate bundles." (For example, Humble Voxatron Debut, Humble Bundle Mojam, and Humble Botanicula Debut.)

Whatever the case may be, I find the "main bundles," or the numbered entries, to be excellent collections of games. Therefore, I always look forward to what the next offer will be.

Hopefully, the next bundle isn't far off.

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[quote name='Englando IV']And just to clarify the multiplayer again: only one person in a game needs the map/expansion for everyone to be able to play it. I hate seeing people post false information about stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
We do thank you for the clarification. I was going to say that there are far worse things to get upset about, but, then again, I hate it when people refer to a single legal entity, such as Sony or Nintendo, with pluralized language.

"Nintendo are"
"Square-Enix are"
"Microsoft are"
cqangry.jpg
 
[quote name='Englando IV']And just to clarify the multiplayer again: only one person in a game needs the map/expansion for everyone to be able to play it. I hate seeing people post false information about stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
We do thank you for the clarification. I was going to say that there are far worse things to get upset about, but, then again, I hate it when people refer to a single legal entity, such as Sony or Nintendo, with pluralized language.

"Nintendo are"
"Square-Enix are"
"Microsoft are"
cqangry.jpg

Coconut Queen is disappointed with your English skills.
 
[quote name='Englando IV']To everyone complaining about Magicka: this is the first time the "The Other Side of the Coin" expansion for Magicka has been on sale, and it's 75% off. So it's actually rather significant...[/QUOTE]


Thanks for pointing that out. I wasn't going to bother looking at the collection but the pack I bought from Amazon did not include all of the available DLC and TOSOTC is definitely missing.
 
Another thing I don't care for with GFWL is that it uses your same Microsoft ID for everything. My hotmail account got hacked a little bit ago and luckily nothing serious happened but still.

I guess the sensible thing to do would have been to create a different ID for GFWL but at this point the games that I own and DLC are already tied to the hotmail and office cloud and MSN messenger etc etc account.

[quote name='BigSpoonyBard']Surprising that Indie Royale didn't drop today. Looking at the title of the next bundle again, "Gone Fishin' Bundle," I'm hoping it's a bunch of water-themed simulation games just for Motoki.[/QUOTE]

I was hitting F5 all day waiting for that damned thing to drop too. I'm so paranoid it will hit when I'm not looking and I'll have to pay $5 instead of $4. :evil:

[quote name='Sophita']Instead they will simply hear all the other Japanese developers tell them,"Told you so! PC Gaming is dead" this will multiply by a hundred if Dark Souls ends up in the top pirated game as well as bombing. Thing is in Japan as I hear PC Gaming is viewed as like the very bottom of what to develop for due to all the audience there being on Consoles and Handhelds.

So bottom line, You can count on this game being THE example of why Japanese companies drop the idea of PC Games. If it bombs and is pirated to high haven. Rather or not that is fair when regards to the game's issues or not is another issue.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't think Dark Souls will be pirated more than any other game. Anyway, that's a really difficult thing to measure. I do think it will be watched much more closely than your average other PC game being pirated. Like I always say, if you are looking for something hard enough, you will find it.

It's true that the PC isn't super popular for gaming in Japan but it does exist. Falcom has made PC games for years and while most of them did get ported to the various consoles, their games like the Ys series started out for the PC. The versions on Steam aren't console ports. They are direct PC made games that have been simply translated into English.

Also they do have an indie scene over there too. That's where Carpe Fulgar got their stuff from. At first they said no one would give them the time of day but suddenly after the success of Recettear on Steam Japanese indies were willing to talk to them. :lol: Maybe we'll see some more stuff via that route too.

[quote name='RollingSkull']If they pitch it aggressively and cut it aggressively it will make bank. Even the mediocre Metro 2033 made money by routinely dropping to $5.[/QUOTE]

Yes but this is the Japanese we are talking about. Look how chintzy Capcom is with their sales. From admitted to being utterly clueless about the PC gaming market in the US so I don't think they will grasp the concept that PC games can and do get a huge spike in sales long after release when the prices get cut drastically.

We'll see what they do and hopefully I am wrong, but they probably will do crappy sales and then use that as further 'evidence' that PC games don't sell.

OTOH Ninja Blade has been $5 a few times and Dark Souls is actually being sold as Steam redeemable (but not Steamworks) on other sites like Gamersgate and GMG so there's potential for sales there too.

[quote name='Leftylikesgames']Y
I do know a lot of people prefer the 360 controller, especially men, and I can see why. Personally I don't have a preference, although the wireless ones always seem so damn heavy coming off of using a PS controller.
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I don't have a PS3 or 360 but oddly enough have the controllers from both. I bought the PS3 controller mostly for Android and while I know it can work on the PC, I prefer the way the 360 one feels, plus more games seem to have native support for the 360 controller these days.

I also love my new funky U shaped wireless wheel controller. :cool:
 
[quote name='EliotAndrews']I was going to say that there are far worse things to get upset about, but, then again, I hate it when people refer to a single legal entity, such as Sony or Nintendo, with pluralized language.

"Nintendo are"
"Square-Enix are"
"Microsoft are"
[/QUOTE]
I hate when people use an apostrophe before the S in plural words, and also when people say Should of.
 
[quote name='EliotAndrews']I hate it when people refer to a single legal entity, such as Sony or Nintendo, with pluralized language.

"Nintendo are"
"Square-Enix are"
"Microsoft are"[/QUOTE]

Tell that to the hack who penned Frozen Synapse. Seriously, how does that repeated mistake go unnoticed?

"Petrov's Shard are"
"Enyo Nomad have snipers"
 
[quote name='asheskitty']

This has been common for top down whole-track-fits-on-screen racers going back to DOS days. Irritating if you are unable to project yourself into the vehicles's frame of reference. Oddly, driving games that don't fit on one screen Autoduel (1985) to Zombie Driver & Renegade Ops seems to use the push-in-desired-direction.

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Good to know so I can avoid them. I love Zombie Driver by the way. I don't know if it has more to do with there being a set track as opposed to an open arena. Bang Bang the track doesn't fit on the screen, but the controls are the same. So I think the difference is the parameters of there being a track constricting movement and boundaries on the track. Either way, I have no interest in this style of racer. I like Twisted Metal and Zombie Driver type games, kart games for goofy fun, the RC racer genre is just not my thing.
 
[quote name='Motoki']I'm really close to getting Airline Tycoon. I like those silly simulator games and I know it's not Garbage Truck Simulator but still it might scratch the simulator itch.

[/QUOTE]

Let us know if it's any good! Speaking of, has anyone ever made a game like Aerobiz for the PC? I used to love playing that and Aerobiz Supersonic on the SNES and I'd love to play something similar on Steam.
 
[quote name='Leftylikesgames']... I do know a lot of people prefer the 360 controller, especially men, and I can see why. Personally I don't have a preference, although the wireless ones always seem so damn heavy coming off of using a PS controller.[/QUOTE]


I have small hands and thought the PS3 controller would be a better fit but the muscles at the bottom of my hand cramp up when I use it for any significant amount of time. Also, I really suck at aiming in FPS games but I seem to suck a bit less with the 360 controller.


[quote name='Motoki']...I also love my new funky U shaped wireless wheel controller. :cool:[/QUOTE]


I really want one of those. I check my Amazon cart every day to see if the price has gone down. In addition to sucking at aiming in FPS games I also suck at racing games and manage to fling my car/kart/motorcycle off the track on a regular basis. I fling a bit less with a racing wheel over a controller.

Maybe I should just stick with point and click adventure games.
 
[quote name='Motoki']
OTOH Ninja Blade has been $5 a few times and Dark Souls is actually being sold as Steam redeemable (but not Steamworks) on other sites like Gamersgate and GMG so there's potential for sales there too.
[/QUOTE]

Ninja Blade (if I remember right) was also in a Indie Gala bundle. It was not steam-redeemable but was sold DRM-free. Need to remember to play that as I as sucker for ninja games but my backlog is too big atm.
 
[quote name='voken']Ninja Blade (if I remember right) was also in a Indie Gala bundle. It was not steam-redeemable but was sold DRM-free. Need to remember to play that as I as sucker for ninja games but my backlog is too big atm.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it was part of indiegala 5. I just bought it for 2 dollars from someone off the marketplace. Have yet to play it yet though.
 
[quote name='Palinn']
I really want one of those. I check my Amazon cart every day to see if the price has gone down. In addition to sucking at aiming in FPS games I also suck at racing games and manage to fling my car/kart/motorcycle off the track on a regular basis. I fling a bit less with a racing wheel over a controller.

Maybe I should just stick with point and click adventure games.[/QUOTE]

The wheel does help my suck less at driving and flying games but I still suck at most games beyond point and click and some RPGs. Wait, why am I a gamer again? :lol:
 
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