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[quote name='Watchman'] Speaking as someone who did retail management for 15 years, I would tell the guy to buzz off and take his chances like everyone else. .[/QUOTE]

This is how I got my Prime Megatron yesterday, actually.

I heard that the local Target had a case of Voyagers -- called, still had four in stock, so Megatron was still there since the case is only four figures. When I got there, the employee told me a lot of people had been asking about these figures but he knew some of them were scalpers (from personal knowledge) or outright rude so he never pulled the case for them.

After chatting with him for a few minutes I bought my Voyager Megatron because he figured it was better for a fan to get it, and that he knew they'd get their hands on it somehow if he tried to refuse every sale. It felt so. damn. great. As I opened it last night, I could hear the cries of every scalper in this area.

Everyday I have to see (or hear) the same story of a guy hitting up various Targets every morning and buying the only Megatron and Soundwave so it feels great knowing that at this store, he got told no and a real fan got it. Unlike what was posted earlier, my area doesn't see pegwarmers of the launch waves of these figures -- if it pulls a profit, its bought. I never saw DOTM Shockwave and Steamhammer on the shelves, not once. Only Optimus and Bumblebee pegwarmed.

Like you, I also put my time in at retail (at TRU) and constantly got offered money to "hold" the Hot Wheels figures or He-Man figures (TF wasn't a big deal at the time.) I'd always see the same three or four people every morning run to the toy aisle when we opened too. I did what I could to make sure they didn't get the figures, such as stocking stuff in the middle of the day.

I still find it ridiculous my local Target let someone buy the entire case of Deluxes, though, but that also seems to have been the tipping point when they started being harder on scalpers. In fact, I'd love it if they just stopped pulling things from the back for everyone -- sure, I wouldn't have my Megatron, but I'd deal with it if it stopped the scalpers in the area.

A limited Voyager Prime Megatron review:

So-so articulation (in his arms) but he looks great in bot mode. The translucent purple on his chest really makes the figure pop, and the electronics gimmick is regulated to his cannon so it doesn't interfere with the figure at all. He gets an extra accessory in the form of a battle claw he can wear. The figure really looks great in person out of the package.

He's ok in his alt form -- supposed to be a Cybertronian space ship I think (the box just says space ship)? Personally, it ends up looking like one of those weird messes out of the movie line where you're not sure what he's transformed into. It grows you on after awhile.

Definitely worth it for the bot mode, I recommend him.
 
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Nice pull animalspinners. I wasn't as fortunate, but got some as I stopped by Target this morning shortly after they opened. I was sort of surprised to see several Prime figures out on the shelves. Grabbed a deluxe Wheeljack and Cliffjumper and a voyager Optimus. Passed on Bumblebee. As expected the Soundwave and Megatron were gone :( Feel a bit lucky as a guy came about 1 min after me and was eye balling the figures too and he ended up grabbing a Cliffjumper as well since I got the last Wheeljack.

I really want to complete this set, so hoping to grab Soundwave and Megatron somehow. How often does Target get restocks? Are these showing up at Walmart or Kmart? I guess TRU is an option, but I hate their markup and there's always 2 or 3 guys that get their early and wait for the doors to open before running to the Transformers/Star Wars and Hot Wheels section. Bastards.
 
[quote name='blandstalker']TFW has posted pictures of Bruticus. Follow the link to the boards to get to pictures of Onslaught. There are links to all the others, too, if you follow them.

I think it looks really, really good. Considering these are all Hasbro Deluxes and it looks like everything is part of the bots (as opposed to stick-on hands/feet or candy-colored Energon weapons), I have to say I'm pretty impressed.

I rag on Hasbro a lot, but it's nice to give them a compliment when it looks like they're doing something right. I hope it's stable -- that's the only thing you can't really judge from pictures.[/QUOTE]

That looks sweet. Some nit-picking here and there can be made (and has been done in the comments) but overall it looks great IMO.

Now the question becomes how hard will this be to get? Did they say it was being sold all together and separately as Deluxe figures? My wallet is gonna be in pain....
 
[quote name='jbz']
I really want to complete this set, so hoping to grab Soundwave and Megatron somehow. How often does Target get restocks? Are these showing up at Walmart or Kmart? I guess TRU is an option, but I hate their markup and there's always 2 or 3 guys that get their early and wait for the doors to open before running to the Transformers/Star Wars and Hot Wheels section. Bastards.[/QUOTE]

Employee at Target told me they get trucks Wednesday and Friday, so those are the days to check (or the day after.) It might be different for your stores., though. Most stores won't restock until the stock is actually gone, so all those Bumblebees and Cliffjumpers will have to go.

I'll give you a few links to help you out:

http://sites.target.com/site/en/spot/mobile_fiats.jsp?tcin=&dpci=087-06-0546&desc=null

This is the store locator for Deluxes at Target. Just put in your zip code and it will tell you if the figures are available. It won't help you find certain figures but it will give you a heads up.

http://sites.target.com/site/en/spot/mobile_fiats.jsp?tcin=&dpci=087-06-0807&desc=null

This is the store locator for Voyagers at Target. Just a note -- if it says "Limited Availability", that means someone already bought the Megatron, because it changes to "Limited Availability" when three or less of an item remains. It updates in semi-real time as well -- before I got my Megatron, it read "Available," about 30 minutes after purchasing it changed to "Limited Availability."

It won't help you with Soundwave, because there are 8 Deluxe's per case, but it does help you check Target remotely without driving there every day. I found this to help with Soundwave:

If you see the Deluxes are in-stock, call Target and ask the first person who answers to look up an item based on the DPCI -- for Deluxes it is 087-06-0546 and ask them how many are in-stock. If they say 8, that means the entire case is there and so is Soundwave. If they say 7 or under, someone bought Soundwave. Its not a perfect science but it does work and saves a lot of time, especially if it is a Target further out.

Obviously, this information is only useful now while most of the stuff is still in the back and won't help once the line is actually on the pegs and restocks are plentiful. And most of the time, you'll need to ask an employee to pull from the back, which I personally don't like doing... but like they say, if you can't beat em, join em, because someone else will get them to pull from the back. As long as you are super polite and thankful most employees are cool with it.

They haven't shown up at Wal-Mart at all or at K-Mart. I heard elsewhere Wal-Mart's reset is the first week of March, so I expect figures to show up then (and I've never met a Wal-Mart employee who will pull from the back.)

Here is the TRU page for Soundwave -- he sold out fast but you can just refresh it every once in awhile:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12448048

TRU restocks randomly but they will restock.
 
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[quote name='Watchman']I have to disagree about not getting upset with Target. If someone comes in and wants to buy your entire inventory of a product before you've put it out, 1. It should be obvious he's a scalper and 2. You've just left an entire empty gap on your shelves for a few weeks, waiting for a restock (if one is coming at all). Speaking as someone who did retail management for 15 years, I would tell the guy to buzz off and take his chances like everyone else.
There are outlets for buying inventory for your own personal gain: retail stores are the most exploitable because they prey on naive employees (and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this guy doesn't slip a $20 or even a $50 into the pockets of the more stubborn workers to have them pull the inventory out). I simply abhor anyone who spends their entire day exploiting the system that's set up so everyone can have a fair chance.[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure what getting upset at Target is going to accomplish especially since they’re not doing anything wrong. They aren’t breaking a street date and their bottom line is to sell product. Right before Target got Prime figures in TRU had them first and people were getting them pulled using the SKN number.
Getting something pulled from the back does not a scalper make. I have had it done in the past and know friends and other collectors who have done it as well. I have bought a whole case before for myself and to share with other collectors either locally or on boards.
SKN’s, DPCI’s and UPC’s are all public information, everyone has access to them. Having this information does not give you an unfair advantage but it does make you better equipped.
Over all my years of collecting different lines I have beaten and been beaten to various products by scalpers so I do know they’re out there but I think board chatter makes them to be a bigger problem than they actually are. Yes they exist but they are not the sole reason we sometimes cannot find what we’re looking for. There are other collectors out there, on boards like these and off. And don’t forget the fact that we are adults buying toys made for children. Yes, scalpers capitalize on finding what some of us can’t but eventually the market gets oversaturated, the figures we’re looking for show up en masse and scalpers can’t make a profit anymore. Like I said earlier – these figures have been out for a little over a week, in limited numbers at two retailers. Give it time and these figures will be everywhere and the complaint will be that they are peg warming. Right now everyone is just impatient and caught up in the hype of new figures. This is how it always goes.
 
[quote name='animalspinners']Employee at Target told me they get trucks Wednesday and Friday, so those are the days to check (or the day after.) It might be different for your stores., though. Most stores won't restock until the stock is actually gone, so all those Bumblebees and Cliffjumpers will have to go.

I'll give you a few links to help you out:

http://sites.target.com/site/en/spot/mobile_fiats.jsp?tcin=&dpci=087-06-0546&desc=null

This is the store locator for Deluxes at Target. Just put in your zip code and it will tell you if the figures are available. It won't help you find certain figures but it will give you a heads up.

http://sites.target.com/site/en/spot/mobile_fiats.jsp?tcin=&dpci=087-06-0807&desc=null

This is the store locator for Voyagers at Target. Just a note -- if it says "Limited Availability", that means someone already bought the Megatron, because it changes to "Limited Availability" when three or less of an item remains. It updates in semi-real time as well -- before I got my Megatron, it read "Available," about 30 minutes after purchasing it changed to "Limited Availability."

It won't help you with Soundwave, because there are 8 Deluxe's per case, but it does help you check Target remotely without driving there every day. I found this to help with Soundwave:

If you see the Deluxes are in-stock, call Target and ask the first person who answers to look up an item based on the DPCI -- for Deluxes it is 087-06-0546 and ask them how many are in-stock. If they say 8, that means the entire case is there and so is Soundwave. If they say 7 or under, someone bought Soundwave. Its not a perfect science but it does work and saves a lot of time, especially if it is a Target further out.

Obviously, this information is only useful now while most of the stuff is still in the back and won't help once the line is actually on the pegs and restocks are plentiful. And most of the time, you'll need to ask an employee to pull from the back, which I personally don't like doing... but like they say, if you can't beat em, join em, because someone else will get them to pull from the back. As long as you are super polite and thankful most employees are cool with it.

They haven't shown up at Wal-Mart at all or at K-Mart. I heard elsewhere Wal-Mart's reset is the first week of March, so I expect figures to show up then (and I've never met a Wal-Mart employee who will pull from the back.)

Here is the TRU page for Soundwave -- he sold out fast but you can just refresh it every once in awhile:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12448048

TRU restocks randomly but they will restock.[/QUOTE]

Well my target has available for both. I think I'll take my chances to wait until the 26th though, because I've never had any issues with scalpers in my area (to my knowledge).
 
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[quote name='jbz']thanks animalspinners, you are on it :)[/QUOTE]

Haha, thanks, its just a lot of information from all over the net compiled into once place and some of the stuff I personally noticed.

Its also worth noting Target is only getting one case at a time, unlike DOTM where most Targets got multiple cases. I haven't yet heard of a store getting more than one case of deluxes and one case of voyagers.

The only thing I can think of is Target isn't overordering so they aren't stuck with a lot of leftover figures. I don't really think this line is going to have a lot of pegwarmers though besides Voyager Optimus and Deluxe Bumblebee, especially if the ordering is kept to a minimum.
 
Ok, just went on my lunch break to a Target about 20 min away. Thanks to animalspinner's useful post I was able to determine that both deluxe and voyager were showing as "available". I called and they said 8 deluxe available and 4 voyagers. I drove down and there was none on the floor. Customer service pulled up DPCI #s and it was showing 8 and 4. So they called the guy working in toy department and he came to help. He said actually they only had 4 deluxe available, so right there I knew someone put all 4 deluxe (Soundwave included) on hold. He then said they did have all 4 voyagers in stock and he would pull box for me. Shortly after I was purchasing a Megatron and the guy showed me the 4 deluxe ones being held. Was gonna try and somehow convince him to let me buy the Soundwave, but it felt like bad karma or something. The guy who put these on hold didn't do the same with the Megatron so I wasn't totally disappointed. But overall, animalspinners info and technique for checking on Target stock was spot on and I'm grateful. In one day I got almost all my Prime collection set so far :D

I hope that El Rey is correct though and eventually getting the limited figure in each case won't be such a chore. I have a feeling all the ones I want will be that way :p
 
Awesome! I'm glad it worked out for you.

I actually called a Target ahead of time to check stock, employee told me they had 8 deluxes, and offered to go in the back and put the figures I wanted on hold because he "knew how people were looking for these and he wanted to make sure I get them." He offered all on his own too so its great to find some awesome employees at Target.

So right now, I've got a Soundwave and Wheeljack on hold, and I'm contemplating a Cliffjumper. It took a lot of effort to "stay ahead of the curve" (and too many phone calls) so I'm glad my methods worked for you and I could share them with everyone here :)

Going to go get them in about 45 minutes, so hopefully it all works out. This is the only Target in this city, or the surrounding 3, that has a Soundwave in stock at this point (that's counting about 16 to 18 Targets, give or take.)

Just keep checking jbz... I'm sure you'll get a Soundwave eventually! At least the method is proven by someone other than myself, haha. If you've got any other Targets nearby, its worth a call. They don't come up in the computer as flagged or anything so calling is the way to go.

Target's do seem to be restocking these fast... the closest store to me, which sold out of its deluxes a few days ago, got a fresh case today... but they put them right out onto the floor this time and by 4 pm they had already sold 4 of the 8 figures.
 
[quote name='El Rey']I’m not sure what getting upset at Target is going to accomplish especially since they’re not doing anything wrong. They aren’t breaking a street date and their bottom line is to sell product. Right before Target got Prime figures in TRU had them first and people were getting them pulled using the SKN number.
Getting something pulled from the back does not a scalper make. I have had it done in the past and know friends and other collectors who have done it as well. I have bought a whole case before for myself and to share with other collectors either locally or on boards.
SKN’s, DPCI’s and UPC’s are all public information, everyone has access to them. Having this information does not give you an unfair advantage but it does make you better equipped.
Over all my years of collecting different lines I have beaten and been beaten to various products by scalpers so I do know they’re out there but I think board chatter makes them to be a bigger problem than they actually are. Yes they exist but they are not the sole reason we sometimes cannot find what we’re looking for. There are other collectors out there, on boards like these and off. And don’t forget the fact that we are adults buying toys made for children. Yes, scalpers capitalize on finding what some of us can’t but eventually the market gets oversaturated, the figures we’re looking for show up en masse and scalpers can’t make a profit anymore. Like I said earlier – these figures have been out for a little over a week, in limited numbers at two retailers. Give it time and these figures will be everywhere and the complaint will be that they are peg warming. Right now everyone is just impatient and caught up in the hype of new figures. This is how it always goes.[/QUOTE]

I'm looking at this from a retailer's standpoint and as a collector. I managed a Suncoast for years, and we usually were the only ones that got certain figures like the McFarlane collection and other various exclusive collectibles like Peanuts, Simpsons and whatnot. We had a strict policy that there was no holding by employees for their own gain in the back room or no selling in advance or en masse-- everyone--customer and employee alike--had the same chance of getting a figure when they hit the shelves, and not a second before. As such, we still sold out of many things, but we also didn't have rampant scalping, because it was still a crapshoot whether or not we'd have the items for sale on display.
This, to me was the best tactic of all that worked to give everyone a fair shake.
So while I'm not mad at Target specifically, I do blame stores of any kind for cowtowing to scalpers who do in fact ruin it for everybody--adults and kids alike.
 
See, I'm glad you get it Animalspinners. I do the same thing at my local TRU just by asking--and talking to the one fella there who he himself is a collector, understood and believed I'm a collector for myself, and not interested in making a fast buck. He would grab figures if they were there, or just bury them on a parallel peg behind another brand. I still never collected entire sets, but at least I got a few more than normal, because I was polite, reasonable, and most of all not interested in buying an entire case.
That said, my TRU today probably had all of them earlier, but all they had was Bumblebee, which is fine to start my collection of this one. Which of course now I'm worried my Target just down the street will be equally wiped out, despite it saying "available" through your link. A plus though--TRU had the lowest price on the Triple disc Lady and the Tramp Blu-Ray with a $5 gift card (and my $8 "upgrade" coupon from Disney's site), so I got 'Bee for $10.99 instead of $16.
 
[quote name='Watchman']I'm looking at this from a retailer's standpoint and as a collector. I managed a Suncoast for years, and we usually were the only ones that got certain figures like the McFarlane collection and other various exclusive collectibles like Peanuts, Simpsons and whatnot. We had a strict policy that there was no holding by employees for their own gain in the back room or no selling in advance or en masse-- everyone--customer and employee alike--had the same chance of getting a figure when they hit the shelves, and not a second before. As such, we still sold out of many things, but we also didn't have rampant scalping, because it was still a crapshoot whether or not we'd have the items for sale on display.
This, to me was the best tactic of all that worked to give everyone a fair shake.
So while I'm not mad at Target specifically, I do blame stores of any kind for cowtowing to scalpers who do in fact ruin it for everybody--adults and kids alike.[/QUOTE]

That's how wal-mart used to be, but I think the times have changed. I worked there when the Star Wars figures started being produced again in the late 90s and I had a hell of a time finding some of the figures even though I worked there since everyone had an equal chance to buy them.
 
Pretty hilarious experience.

So I got to the Target where the employee put Soundwave and Wheeljack on hold -- bought them, awesome, props to that employee. Decided I wanted a Cliffjumper but couldn't find the employee (and forgot his name, sadly.)

Found a different employee for the figures but he had difficulty putting the DPCI in -- said the system "wasn't working right." He asked me what I wanted by name and he cut me off by the time I got "Transformers Prime" out.

"We can't sell those, they are street dated for the 26th. We'd get fined if we sold those early."

I politely explained that's not a street date, but a reset date, and it shouldn't be a problem.

"Well, I would need to scan them in too and then I can't put them out, because there is no shelf tag, and..."

At this point, I just thanked him for his time, told him he didn't need to explain further and thanked him again.

It was weird how he knew the figures by name and the dates associated (considering this is the first time the store has ever received a shipment) but he is in for a real shock when he sees the box has already been opened and placed back in the stockroom. I wasn't going to push it because hell, it's only Cliffjumper who I am lukewarm on anyways, and I already got Soundwave and Wheeljack. I also didn't want to get the previous employee in trouble, so I never once mentioned I already bought them -- I figured if this guy knew, he'd trace it back to the nice employee and that's the last thing I wanted.

Both figures are awesome. This is probably the most effort I've had to put into collecting in a long time, since usually BBTS has single orders for everything (but not this time) and it reminded how much I hate buying figures at retail. But the method I posted above definitely does work if anyone is looking for Soundwave.
 
[quote name='Watchman']I'm looking at this from a retailer's standpoint and as a collector. I managed a Suncoast for years, and we usually were the only ones that got certain figures like the McFarlane collection and other various exclusive collectibles like Peanuts, Simpsons and whatnot. We had a strict policy that there was no holding by employees for their own gain in the back room or no selling in advance or en masse-- everyone--customer and employee alike--had the same chance of getting a figure when they hit the shelves, and not a second before. As such, we still sold out of many things, but we also didn't have rampant scalping, because it was still a crapshoot whether or not we'd have the items for sale on display.
This, to me was the best tactic of all that worked to give everyone a fair shake.
So while I'm not mad at Target specifically, I do blame stores of any kind for cowtowing to scalpers who do in fact ruin it for everybody--adults and kids alike.[/QUOTE]

I understand what you're saying but in this case its not a matter of someone not getting a "fair shake" at something. Sure scalpers are able to get items pulled from the back but so are collectors. Once these start hitting everywhere getting things pulled from the back won't even be an issue.
 
Well my wife wasn't too pleased about the boxes of Transformers sitting in the house now. So out of curiosity, are there any sites that list their approximate value in different conditions (sealed, loose but 100%, etc) or would going by completed ebay listings be the best choice? I'm not too concerned about making lots of money, so I'd rather sell them as a lot and have them gone, but I want to have a good starting price so I don't risk having to part with them for like say $20. Thanks for any suggestions guys.
 
[quote name='opterasis']Well my wife wasn't too pleased about the boxes of Transformers sitting in the house now. So out of curiosity, are there any sites that list their approximate value in different conditions (sealed, loose but 100%, etc) or would going by completed ebay listings be the best choice? I'm not too concerned about making lots of money, so I'd rather sell them as a lot and have them gone, but I want to have a good starting price so I don't risk having to part with them for like say $20. Thanks for any suggestions guys.[/QUOTE]

Completed eBay listings are your best bet for sure.

Unless you have a lot of figures that are just not worth anything (and really, at least any figure in good condition is worth at least $5... you'd be surprised at what's worth money), its best to sell them separately, especially if you have figures from multiple lines. The person who is an Armada / Energon fan might not be a G1 fan, for example, so they'd probably pass and you'll end up getting less.

I'm sure if you put a list here we could help you out a bit too!
 
I took a second trip out today to that Target I spoke about earlier and sure enough, only two 'Bees were on the pegs--and surprisingly a Wheeljack! So I grabbed him and asked to speak to the section manager, who said that those DPCI numbers are not to be trusted unless you're calling first thing in the morning: they're only updated once every morning around 8 am (Pacific in my case)--so even a search turning up say 10 units in stock at 4 pm was only true 8 hours before in actuality.
I also asked what the store's policy was on selling the entire case--he said they can sell the entire lot in one transaction, but in this store's case they aren't going to go rooting through the boxes for specific units--they'll pull one box out only and let the customer pick through it, but not beyond the first box; he said "We don't have time to pull our entire inventory out for everyone". He also said he has more of a problem with Hot Wheels collectors moreso than TF, which made me feel a little better about my chances.
 
[quote name='animalspinners']Completed eBay listings are your best bet for sure.

Unless you have a lot of figures that are just not worth anything (and really, at least any figure in good condition is worth at least $5... you'd be surprised at what's worth money), its best to sell them separately, especially if you have figures from multiple lines. The person who is an Armada / Energon fan might not be a G1 fan, for example, so they'd probably pass and you'll end up getting less.

I'm sure if you put a list here we could help you out a bit too![/QUOTE]

Well here's a list of what I have... that I can remember the names for... I've been out of the TF loop for a while now. They're all 100% complete with any missiles and weapons but no instructions or cards or anything, opened, transformed once and thrown on a shelf, so they're perfect as I can tell other than some dust.

25th Anniversary Optimus Prime (boxed with comic and dvd, but the box has a big rip on it. I actually rescued it from a dumpster

Energon:
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Arcee
Insecticon
Battle Ravage
Doomlock
Demolisher
Perceptor
Prowl
Starscream
Rodimus
Sea and Adventure Mini-con team (not sure if that was the actual name of them)

Alternators:
Sideswipe
Battle Ravage

Universe:
Devastator

Then I have 7 out of 8 of a set that I've seen refered to as Spychangers? They're all cars, and come with mini tins. These are all sealed, although there's some bends on the cardboard on some of them.
 
wow, thread explosion!

Great Battle Tanker review Blandstalker! I'd love one, but can't justify the money on these third party products.

In terms of Prime, I'm not that worried about the figures honestly. The line hasn't even come out at most retail outlets, and once they do I'm sure even Soundwave won't be that hard to find. At least, that's my hope...
 
[quote name='opterasis']
25th Anniversary Optimus Prime (boxed with comic and dvd, but the box has a big rip on it. I actually rescued it from a dumpster

Energon:
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Arcee
Insecticon
Battle Ravage
Doomlock
Demolisher
Perceptor
Prowl
Starscream
Rodimus
Sea and Adventure Mini-con team (not sure if that was the actual name of them)

Alternators:
Sideswipe
Battle Ravage

Universe:
Devastator

Then I have 7 out of 8 of a set that I've seen refered to as Spychangers? They're all cars, and come with mini tins. These are all sealed, although there's some bends on the cardboard on some of them.[/QUOTE]

This is just from doing a quick eBay search (and some of it is from memory since this is a line I'm trying to finish) and then what I'd personally do with the figures:

With Energon Optimus and Megatron, you can probably get $30 a piece, easily if they are complete as you say and in good condition. I know Energon Megatron is pretty popular and should sell easily.

Rodimus gets about $15 or so

Arcee gets about $10 or so

Starscream isn't worth anything unless its the G1 homage

Prowl is one of those ones where you could get lucky and get $10 or get nothing -- depends on getting the right bidder at the right time

Demolisher gets about $15 - $20 a piece

Battle Ravage's price varies like Prowls

Perceptor is worth about $10 complete

Doomlock isn't worth much of anything

Insecticon isn't either

Universe Devastator is worth about $50

The Alternators are probably worth about $10 - $15 a piece, they are the common ones.

What I'd do is bundle the guys that don't sell together, like Doomlock, Insecticon and Starscream and sell everyone else separate. If you wanted, you could bundle the alternators for sale as well.

While looking up these prices, I actually saw bundles that included this figure go for far cheaper then people who just sold it individually. I'd say if you sold everything seperately you'd probably rake in about $200 when all is said and done? Definitely over $100 just from Optimus, Megatron and Devastator alone.

Another alternative is to register for a Transformers fansite, like TFW2005, and sell directly to members. You'd probably have no problem selling off the big name guys and you'd avoid Paypal fees. I've used TFW forums to buy and sell and never gotten screwed once.

Energon is kind of the black sheep of the fandom (not a lot of people are into it, which is sad because I personally thought the figures were kick ass) so that's why you won't make quite as much on these. As you can see, its the G1 homages that bring in the money (except for Prowl, but his figure is horrible.)
 
[quote name='opterasis']Well my wife wasn't too pleased about the boxes of Transformers sitting in the house now. So out of curiosity, are there any sites that list their approximate value in different conditions (sealed, loose but 100%, etc) or would going by completed ebay listings be the best choice? I'm not too concerned about making lots of money, so I'd rather sell them as a lot and have them gone, but I want to have a good starting price so I don't risk having to part with them for like say $20. Thanks for any suggestions guys.[/QUOTE]

Besides ebay, you could also try craigslist. A smaller market, but sometimes easier since local and you can just meet and exchange. Although sometimes people don't like to meet others :)
 
[quote name='animalspinners']This is just from doing a quick eBay search (and some of it is from memory since this is a line I'm trying to finish) and then what I'd personally do with the figures:

With Energon Optimus and Megatron, you can probably get $30 a piece, easily if they are complete as you say and in good condition. I know Energon Megatron is pretty popular and should sell easily.

Rodimus gets about $15 or so

Arcee gets about $10 or so

Starscream isn't worth anything unless its the G1 homage

Prowl is one of those ones where you could get lucky and get $10 or get nothing -- depends on getting the right bidder at the right time

Demolisher gets about $15 - $20 a piece

Battle Ravage's price varies like Prowls

Perceptor is worth about $10 complete

Doomlock isn't worth much of anything

Insecticon isn't either

Universe Devastator is worth about $50

The Alternators are probably worth about $10 - $15 a piece, they are the common ones.

What I'd do is bundle the guys that don't sell together, like Doomlock, Insecticon and Starscream and sell everyone else separate. If you wanted, you could bundle the alternators for sale as well.

While looking up these prices, I actually saw bundles that included this figure go for far cheaper then people who just sold it individually. I'd say if you sold everything seperately you'd probably rake in about $200 when all is said and done? Definitely over $100 just from Optimus, Megatron and Devastator alone.

Another alternative is to register for a Transformers fansite, like TFW2005, and sell directly to members. You'd probably have no problem selling off the big name guys and you'd avoid Paypal fees. I've used TFW forums to buy and sell and never gotten screwed once.

Energon is kind of the black sheep of the fandom (not a lot of people are into it, which is sad because I personally thought the figures were kick ass) so that's why you won't make quite as much on these. As you can see, its the G1 homages that bring in the money (except for Prowl, but his figure is horrible.)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the input. To be honest, around $200 was what I was HOPING to be able to get, so that's some good news.
 
[quote name='jbz']Is that Universe Devastator the one that is smaller than normal (not WST small, but small)?[/QUOTE]

Yes, that's the one. Oddly enough, I saved the packaging and instructions from 2 of them. Not sure why the hell I did that, since I'm pretty sure I got them all at once at a TRU store closing sale or something.
 
I have the same set and normally save everything, but looks like I threw it away too. Does the instructions you have show how to convert all of them to Devastator?
 
[quote name='jbz']I have the same set and normally save everything, but looks like I threw it away too. Does the instructions you have show how to convert all of them to Devastator?[/QUOTE]

Just checked, yup, it's on there. Apparently there's a jet mode too, I never noticed that before.

Does anyone know about any of the current store exclusives? I was just at Walmart and they had 2 Optimus Primes with "Walmart Exclusive" stickers on them. One is Lunarfire Optimus, and I can understand that one because it looks like an exclusive paintjob with some goldish. But the other one just looks like a regular Optimus that would be at any other store.
 
Is there anyway possible you could scan that instructions and send to me? I don't have mine and I can't figure out one part on creating Devastator, LOL. Or perhaps you can describe how the chest/torso part is created and connected to the legs :)
 
Email I got from TFSource re: my Cliffjumper FE Prime Series preorder:

[FONT=&quot]Originally, when this Preorder was set up Hasbro had given us January 2012 as their “estimated release date” and we had been awaiting word from them as to when they were planning to ship those to us.[/FONT]

 [FONT=&quot]Well, Hasbro finally gave us an update, but it was certainly not what we expected.[/FONT]

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 [FONT=&quot]Unfortunately we have some bad news, we didn't want to call it until Hasbro confirmed, but the rest of the Transformers Prime First Edition series figures will not hit the US. New Prime Preorders will be up next week. If you already have placed an order, you can opt to convert to the new product (RID), or you can cancel your order if you do not want the RID piece. [/FONT]

 [FONT=&quot]Please let me know if you would like me to remove the Transformers Prime Deluxe Series 01 - Cliffjumper - First Edition C9 from your Order Stack Manager, or if you prefer to convert to the new item.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]We are very sorry for the frustration and inconvenience this Hasbro development has caused.[/FONT]




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[quote name='jbz']Is there anyway possible you could scan that instructions and send to me? I don't have mine and I can't figure out one part on creating Devastator, LOL. Or perhaps you can describe how the chest/torso part is created and connected to the legs :)[/QUOTE]

No scanner, but I'll definitely see what I can do for you when I get home.
 
[quote name='jbz']Is there anyway possible you could scan that instructions and send to me? I don't have mine and I can't figure out one part on creating Devastator, LOL. Or perhaps you can describe how the chest/torso part is created and connected to the legs :)[/QUOTE]

If I'm thinking of the right one (the one released in 2004), according to the TFWiki its just a repaint of Sixbuilder, a Japanese G1 Micromaster released in the early 90s.

If its just a simple repaint, these instructions for Sixbuilder should work as they are the same figure:

http://tfwiki.net/~fortmax/instructions/G1/jpn/tf01.jpg
 
[quote name='animalspinners']If I'm thinking of the right one (the one released in 2004), according to the TFWiki its just a repaint of Sixbuilder, a Japanese G1 Micromaster released in the early 90s.

If its just a simple repaint, these instructions for Sixbuilder should work as they are the same figure:

http://tfwiki.net/~fortmax/instructions/G1/jpn/tf01.jpg[/QUOTE]

:applause: thanks!
 
[quote name='opterasis']Does anyone know about any of the current store exclusives? I was just at Walmart and they had 2 Optimus Primes with "Walmart Exclusive" stickers on them. One is Lunarfire Optimus, and I can understand that one because it looks like an exclusive paintjob with some goldish. But the other one just looks like a regular Optimus that would be at any other store.[/QUOTE]

Except it wasn't.

Wal-Mart had this Prime as an exclusive. Later, it was repainted as Lunarfire Optimus, which was also their exclusive. Wal-Mart also had exclusive redecos for Bumblebee (Nascarish), Sideswipe (blue and yellow), and Roadbuster (orange). Wal-Mart also had a redeco of HftD Battle Blades Prime bundled with a redeco of ROTF Landmine.

As it turns out, the deluxe Prime will be released as part of the Movie Trilogy line...with a trailer! This release will not be an exclusive, so it finally will be at "any other store". Here's a link for the official picture.
 
[quote name='blandstalker']Except it wasn't.

Wal-Mart had this Prime as an exclusive. Later, it was repainted as Lunarfire Optimus, which was also their exclusive. Wal-Mart also had exclusive redecos for Bumblebee (Nascarish), Sideswipe (blue and yellow), and Roadbuster (orange). Wal-Mart also had a redeco of HftD Battle Blades Prime bundled with a redeco of ROTF Landmine.

As it turns out, the deluxe Prime will be released as part of the Movie Trilogy line...with a trailer! This release will not be an exclusive, so it finally will be at "any other store". Here's a link for the official picture.[/QUOTE]

Ah, okay, thanks for the explanation.
 
[quote name='animalspinners']Energon is kind of the black sheep of the fandom (not a lot of people are into it, which is sad because I personally thought the figures were kick ass) so that's why you won't make quite as much on these. [/QUOTE]

I've always considered Armada more of a black sheep. Mini-cons are cool, but almost every figure to come out of that line felt like it should have been in a playschool line. Soooo overly simplified and chunky. I friggin LOVE Tidal Wave though.

Most of Energon's Autobots sucked, but it's Decepticon lineup was overall very well done. Although, Energon has the distinction of having 2 of my most regretted TF purchases: - Omega Supreme and Alpha Q...
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']wow, thread explosion!

In terms of Prime, I'm not that worried about the figures honestly. The line hasn't even come out at most retail outlets, and once they do I'm sure even Soundwave won't be that hard to find. At least, that's my hope...[/QUOTE]

Just FYI, I was totally surprised, and pleasantly so, to find a deluxe class Bumblee TF Prime figure at the local Target. Only one they had left. I've been seeing the Cyberverese tiny ones a lot lately, but not anything bigger. So I guess they're finally arriving in my area! :applause:
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']I've always considered Armada more of a black sheep. Mini-cons are cool, but almost every figure to come out of that line felt like it should have been in a playschool line. Soooo overly simplified and chunky. I friggin LOVE Tidal Wave though.

Most of Energon's Autobots sucked, but it's Decepticon lineup was overall very well done. Although, Energon has the distinction of having 2 of my most regretted TF purchases: - Omega Supreme and Alpha Q...[/QUOTE]

I have to say that I like Energon better than Armada. Armada's idea -- minicons which unlock stuff -- was neat, but you're right -- "chunky" is the operative word. Articulation took a nosedive. Tidal Wave is a standout, though.

I still like the combination aspect of Energon, and that you can mix and match different figures. I don't think they ever really got to the full potential there, but that alone makes up for a lot in my book.

Omega Supreme is...well, I've bought worse. But, yeah. It's one of those where you look at the pictures and know it's going to suck, but somehow you convince yourself it has got to be better. And then you find out: no, it really does suck. I wish I had Omega Sentinel instead, as I like the color scheme better, but I only got it because it was on clearance at Target.

I never got Alpha Q. I can understand doing a Quintesson figure, but this...thing? No thanks.
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']I've always considered Armada more of a black sheep. Mini-cons are cool, but almost every figure to come out of that line felt like it should have been in a playschool line. Soooo overly simplified and chunky. I friggin LOVE Tidal Wave though.
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Well, its more Armada / Energon / Cybertron as a whole just gets glossed over by a lot of the fandom... RID to an extent too (though Scourge / Nemesis Prime remains ever popular.)

Nobody ever asks for any of these figures to get added to Generations, haha. To many fans, Generations means G1 and Beast Wars and that's it.

It seems most other eras have large, large fanbases but most of the fans just kind of ignored these two eras. A lot of the figures (besides some of the fan hyped ones) go for such low amounts. I've built a lot of my A / E / C collection for like $4 a figure -- I really dig this era since it wasn't just the same figures rolled out over and over again; a lot of new faces and great designs.

Even the figures that used the same names, like Red Alert, were extremely different. I'm not a fan of the shows so much as the figures... Scorponok, Crosswise, Tidal Wave, Energon Megatron... all great figures.
 
I really enjoyed Cybertron as well. Also, while the US show was awful and was shoe-horned into the Armadaverse/Unicron Trilogy, Galaxy Quest (Japanese series) was actually quite enjoyable.

Speaking of awful... they only new thing shown at Toy Fair so far that doesn't look like utter shit is FoC Shockwave (TFW2005.com has links to all the pics on their front page, not gonna clog up this thread with all the pics). Granted, most of the stuff is from a poor camera angle and many look horribly mis-transformed, but I am ultra ultra ultra disappointed.

FoC Prime looks like complete crap. I adore WfC Prime and all his complexity. My first thought when I saw FoC Prime? "When did Titaniums come back?"

FoC Jazz looks like he might be ok, though something looks off. Bruticus... wtf is up with those colors? Those better as hell not be final... Shockwave is pure win though:drool:

Every new Prime figure shown looks pretty poor as well. I will say I am impressed by a majority of the Cyberverse stuff, except "Optimus Maximus". That just looks horrible in both "modes" (don't really see much of a difference in the "base mode", if that's what the pic is showing). Otherwise, Ratchet looks pretty good, but is in desperate need of some additional paint apps. Knockout better as hell be mis-transformed (those arms! wtf?!). Bulkhead looks OK I guess, but pales in comparison to FE.

Speaking of FE, really glad that Hasbro is aware of the fan demand, though I'm not holding out hope that their "solution" to get the figs to us will pan out well (*cough* BigBadToyStore Piranacon *cough*).

And then there's KreO. I love the first released sets, but will definitely wait for a heavy clearance to buy anything new shown, if ever. They seem to have severe drop in quality for both modes. While I'm glad for kids that there are now "action sets", I've never liked TF's interacting with Humans. OK, you're on Earth, whatevs. Humans are boring.

Ah well, at least my wallet will be happy... oh who am I kidding, I'll still pick up 90% or more of it despite being crap :cry:
 
those Bruticus colors are a lot different than the previous pics they had. It looks pretty final though. Agreed on Shockwave. He looks sick! That is going to be a tough one to get I bet. One per case or something like that.
 
Speaking of FE, really glad that Hasbro is aware of the fan demand, though I'm not holding out hope that their "solution" to get the figs to us will pan out well (*cough* BigBadToyStore Piranacon *cough*).
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What is the solution being proposed?
 
Not my vintage ones, but I found this set I bought on clearance from Sam's Club http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Universe-Exclusive-Robots-Disguise/dp/B001LL1GXM

I also found these guys: I'm pretty sure I bought them for $15 total at a garage sale 7 or 8 years ago. They are both 20th anniversary Optimus Prime. The one is sealed and it is the Wal-Mart exclusive with the Poster. The other is loose and incomplete.

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Let's be grateful for the most important news of all coming out of Toy Fair:

Hasbro is finally moving away from the movie styled figures. Movie All-Stars, which Target even has in its system for the upcoming reset (which shows it was once set for the US) is now Asia exclusive. It sucks we will never see DOTM Soundwave in the US (I was personally looking forward to him) it seems but the constant movie figures and repaints are finally stopping. I think we've had non-stop movie figures on the pegs since 2007 or whenever the first movie hit.

2013 has 40 Generations figures planned so it seems the future is Prime and Generations. Maybe Hasbro will finally commit to the Dinobots.

And I'm not saying this out of movie hate or anything -- I've got a ton of movie figures, but the line just started to drag once DOTM hit, like even Hasbro was sick of making them at this point. Its good to see them finally just move on. I'd have loved if they did more movie style reinterpretations of figures, like Lockdown and Seaspray, but DOTM in general just seemed like one giant misstep compared to the previous movie line.

Nice knowing you, movie Bumblebee. Can't say I will miss seeing you on the shelf. I know you'll be back whenever Transformers 4 hits but at least I can look forward to not seeing you for at least two years.

And about Bruticus, those are most likely prototypes. Those figures are meant to be game accurate, after all.

And that RID Bulkhead is atrocious. I don't think the FE one is worth $80 - $100 (but its so, so tempting) but that RID one isn't even worth $20... its not even accurate to the animation model. I don't get why Hasbro doesn't just make the FE version the RID one -- the tooling is done, all that is needed is to change the box. Sure, it won't have the same stupid gimmick the other Voyagers do but I really doubt anyone, kid or collector alike, will care.
 
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[quote name='jbz']What is the solution being proposed?[/QUOTE]

They haven't said. Just that they are aware of the fan desire and are "looking into it"...

Slowdive: Masterpiece Prime is one of the best figures ever imho.

[quote name='animalspinners'] Movie All-Stars, which Target even has in its system for the upcoming reset (which shows it was once set for the US) is now Asia exclusive. It sucks we will never see DOTM Soundwave in the US (I was personally looking forward to him) it seems but the constant movie figures and repaints are finally stopping. I think we've had non-stop movie figures on the pegs since 2007 or whenever the first movie hit. [/QUOTE]

Wait, WHAT?! WTF?!! I'm as tired of the movie style as most, but for fucks sack, finish what they started. We never got Q/Wheeljack, whatever the fuck they ended up calling the red car, Deluxe or Human Alliance Soundwave, and I'm sure a couple others I'm forgetting (intentionally leaving out deluxe Prime w/ trailer. Already have Deluxe Prime, which was pretty crappy. Don't care about a big plastic trailer that doesn't really do anything). Or is All Stars separate from "Move Trilogy", cuz the Prime with Trailer is at ToyFair I thought.



I just do not understand the design disparity going on at Hasbro. DotM, Generations, and HftD all had absolutely fantastic figures with complex transformations and great looks in both modes.

Then we got RotF, where the figures shrunk, got simpler, and had the (at the time) most retarded weapons ever in Mechtech. I hate weapons that aren't incorporated into alt mode, and those bulky things were just a mess.

Then we got FE Prime figs, and I breathed a sigh of relief. Finally, I said, the figures are going back to their former complexity, hiding the weapons in alt mode, etc.

Then Hasbro dropped the ball with distribution of the FE figs.

Now RID Prime has crushed me. Completely. I've been disappointed in every Prime figure shown to some degree or other. The weapons are big, obtrusive, and not hidden in alt mode (in most cases). I had thought it couldn't get worse than mechtech, but at least, as stupid as they were, they were weapons in both deployed and collapsed form. These "Powerizer" bullshit weapons look like ass in collapsed form (exception going to Megs), look slightly less bad deployed, and don't lock in deployed form (unlike most of the Voyager class MechTechs).

To top it off, the new Generations figs look like a gigantic step back from previous Gen figs.

I have not been this disappointed in TF's since Armada, and that is saying something. I actually feel it's a good comparison. Back then, we were coming off the beautifully designed complex puzzle boxes of most of the RiD figs (those that weren't repaints from Gen 2 at least), and I was pumped. Then Armada came out, and it was years before we got to that complexity again. Is Hasbro doing another "reset" for lack of a better term?
 
I think my biggest issue with the Prime figures is the legs. Jesus, the weird chicken legs just creep me out! I almost like the Weaponizer Optimus, but those damn upper legs ruin it!
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']
Wait, WHAT?! WTF?!! I'm as tired of the movie style as most, but for fucks sack, finish what they started. We never got Q/Wheeljack, whatever the fuck they ended up calling the red car, Deluxe or Human Alliance Soundwave, and I'm sure a couple others I'm forgetting (intentionally leaving out deluxe Prime w/ trailer. Already have Deluxe Prime, which was pretty crappy. Don't care about a big plastic trailer that doesn't really do anything). Or is All Stars separate from "Move Trilogy", cuz the Prime with Trailer is at ToyFair I thought.
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They said nothing about Soundwave and the rest at Toy Fair which is extremely telling. I think that Prime with Trailer is still coming, but I'm pretty sure he is the only one that is. All Stars is the rebranded name for Movie Trilogy and right now, it's Asia exclusive. DOTM looks to be pretty much done as Hasbro showed nothing to retailers yesterday.

I don't think this is 100% Hasbro's fault -- retailers have started to show disinterest in Transformers as a whole. I've seen this same pattern happen with G.I Joe -- newer figures become hard to find, entire waves get skipped and end up at discount chains and soon stores start bailing on the line completely. DOTM probably wasn't a big seller and retail chains don't want it anymore, hence it being Asia exclusive.

There was a time when retailers wanted only movie stuff and were obsessed with it -- for Hasbro to not distribute someone like Soundwave means there is a disconnect between them and the retailers. DotM stuff didn't yet get clearanced at Target (Human Alliance is out though) so maybe there is still hope.

I just do not understand the design disparity going on at Hasbro. DotM, Generations, and HftD all had absolutely fantastic figures with complex transformations and great looks in both modes.

Then we got RotF, where the figures shrunk, got simpler, and had the (at the time) most retarded weapons ever in Mechtech. I hate weapons that aren't incorporated into alt mode, and those bulky things were just a mess.
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I think you got RotF and DotM mixed up ;) There are still some killer DotM figures but like I said earlier, it seems like Hasbro just lost steam at this point and got sick of making movie figures. HftD was the high point of the movie line for sure.

And the figures shrinking isn't Hasbro's fault -- costs are going up. It was either shrink the figures or raise the prices, and Transformers is one of the few Hasbro lines where kids still buy the figures en masse. If they raise the prices, they risk parents decided to not buy any figures. Kids don't really care - a Transformer is a Transformer.

Hasbro made large cuts across all of their lines for the most part and its because they didn't do so well in 2011.

When you start to cater directly to your collector base at mass market and omit kids, its not enough to keep a line afloat: look at G.I Joe and Marvel Universe.

Then we got FE Prime figs, and I breathed a sigh of relief. Finally, I said, the figures are going back to their former complexity, hiding the weapons in alt mode, etc.

Then Hasbro dropped the ball with distribution of the FE figs.
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This wasn't Hasbro's fault -- this was retailers. All retailers had an equal opportunity to buy FE figs -- only TRU decided to stock them in the US, and only Wave 1 at that. Its going back to the original point -- Transformers as a brand is starting to decline, it doesn't have that pull it once did where retailers purchased anything associated with it.

Hasbro can't sell what no one will buy. I don't think they own HasbroToyShop either (I've heard the store only sells Hasbro goods and licenses the name) and HTS has moved away from single figures and only sells cases now, supposedly. Hasbro really needs a store where they can offer figures like this and DotM Soundwave directly to customers, something similar to what Mattel uses in MattyCollector.

Now RID Prime has crushed me. Completely. I've been disappointed in every Prime figure shown to some degree or other. The weapons are big, obtrusive, and not hidden in alt mode (in most cases). I had thought it couldn't get worse than mechtech, but at least, as stupid as they were, they were weapons in both deployed and collapsed form. These "Powerizer" bullshit weapons look like ass in collapsed form (exception going to Megs), look slightly less bad deployed, and don't lock in deployed form (unlike most of the Voyager class MechTechs).

To top it off, the new Generations figs look like a gigantic step back from previous Gen figs.
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I agree -- MechTech is horrible, and so is all this electronics junk, but this is what retailers tell Hasbro that kids want -- retailers WANT figures that light up and shoot 100 missiles and all that junk. When Hasbro tried to move away from gimmicks, like FE Voyagers, no retailer wanted them in the US.

Soundwave and Megatron are pretty cool, and I enjoy Wheeljack but for the most part, I agree -- FE Bulkhead is leaps and bounds better than the one they showed. Like I said earlier, that one isn't even accurate to the animation! Nobody would mind if FE Bulkhead just became regular line Bulkhead, so there has to be more to it, and I'm betting on retailers wanting some kind of gimmick in there.

These same issues run rampant through everything Hasbro does -- retailers give them the shaft on a regular basis. Its extremely telling that Target only got one case of each size class of Prime and so far, its been two weeks and my Targets have yet to restock. Compare this to any other new Transformers launch where they got 3 to 4 cases of figures.

I have not been this disappointed in TF's since Armada, and that is saying something. I actually feel it's a good comparison. Back then, we were coming off the beautifully designed complex puzzle boxes of most of the RiD figs (those that weren't repaints from Gen 2 at least), and I was pumped. Then Armada came out, and it was years before we got to that complexity again. Is Hasbro doing another "reset" for lack of a better term?
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They said before DotM that they wanted to scale back the complexity. I agree with them on this -- in my opinion, a lot of RotF figures are complex just for the sake of being complex.

But Prime figures aren't as bad as Armada stuff -- I actually think they hit the right amount of complexity with Generations / DotM / Prime. I don't want to have to look up the manual every time I want to transform a TF.

You want a real transforming challenge, buy an Alternity figure ;) Those are some of the most complex deluxe sized figures I've ever seen in the line.
 
It's official: DOTM Wave 6 is cancelled along with all other movie figures.

Well folks, here is the bad news that I think a lot of you feared was coming, but did not want to hear regardless. There's been some question to the fate of several upcoming releases left in the Transformers Dark of the Moon line - the sixth wave of Deluxes Wheeljack (aka Autobot Que) and Soundwave, the Target Exclusive two pack of Leadfoot and Twin Twist, as well as Human Alliance Soundwave. Well, by way of El Duque of Seibertron, we have an answer - they are cancelled. These toys are no longer planned for a US release. The same fate has befallen them as with previous assortments, including the Reveal the Shield Voyagers and final assortments of Transformers Animated - low retailer demand in anticipation of the new line.
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This time, I do blame Hasbro -- why did they hold figures who were IN the movie until Wave 6? These figures should have been in Wave 1 - 3, instead of Barricade, Jolt, Mudflap, Skids and any other figures who actually weren't part of DOTM.

There are some from Asia for $31 and free shipping for Deluxe Soundwave, so if you want one I recommend doing it now before the price shoots up. Looking at the sold auctions these things are going *fast*.

I'm definitely in for a deluxe Soundwave... I was never going to get Que and Human Alliance aren't really my thing (only have two of them and got both on clearance.) I'll get HA Soundwave if he ever shows up at Ross.

Passing on Deluxe Leadfoot too as he has none of the Target paint apps (and he's also $60 - $80 for the deluxe.) I'll just pick up the HA Leadfoot at Target to get an accurate one. Sure, all three wreckers aren't the same size class but I'll live.

ETA: And Deluxe Soundwave is bought - $31 and free shipping isn't that bad, considering Hasbro's track record with getting figures out after a line ends is spotty at best. Even if he shows up at Ross, I barely have any here and they never seem to get figures in.
 
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you buying it from those Ebay auctions? I hate buying from Chinese/Taiwan sellers but I guess what choice do we have right?
 
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