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Fable IV is something I'd be interested in seeing, but with Pete gone would it be the same quirky franchise?  Also, they tend to come out on PC now so I'd just buy it there if possible.

 
Saw on neogaf that the game image above was confirmed to be a fake.

I'd think Fable IV is pretty much a given though.  Especially with the HD remake of the first one coming--good way to build hype for a new entry on Xbone.

 
with pete gone fable went down the tubes. to be honest most microsoft first party games for me are not that great i really only got into gears of war series with that said im not even looking forward to the next one seeing judgement was soooo bad.

 
He worked on every Fable game so far I don't know what you are talking about. I found III to be rather dissapointing after really enjoying II. Molynuex is always big on promises and pretty short on delivery most of the time. Fable probably could use a new person to head it up.

 
i know he worked on every fable but once he left the franchise went down the tubes he was the master mind behind fable the kinect fable game was pretty awful 

 
look at halo 4 and modern warfare 3 we knew goinginto both those games they would not be good thanks to the old teams not working on the game and mw3 was god awful and halo 4 well story was pretty bad.

 
You can say you think that is the future of the Fable franchise. That's different then say Fable IV coming out, sucking even worse than The Journey and being able to actually say they've gone downhill since Molyneux left. It can't go downhill when it hasn't even moved yet.

 
TimboSliceGB said:
look at halo 4 and modern warfare 3 we knew goinginto both those games they would not be good thanks to the old teams not working on the game and mw3 was god awful and halo 4 well story was pretty bad.
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Ok those games have come out and in your opinion they've gone downhill so you can say that (which yes I believe that as well) but beforehand you couldn't definitively say they've gone downhill because the games weren't out yet. You say something's gone downhill before you have even played it and that just makes you a jackass.

 
4thHorseman said:
htz said:
https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/status/337112855197388801 :whistle2:\"
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Kaz cracks me up with his tweets.

Also, this was posted a few days ago making some others rumors about possible games:

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You do realize that's a parady account right? It says it right on it. It's not really Kaz.

 
Blaster man said:
You do realize that's a parady account right? It says it right on it. It's not really Kaz.
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Well, now I feel like a moron. Wasn't even paying attention.

Isn't there someone at the top of Sony who tweets sarcastic things? I hear about it on podcasts all of the time, and I for some reason thought it was Kaz.

 
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And oh my god, if this is one of the "original" games they were mentioning, I don't hold much hope for the rest of the lineup: http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/04/harmonix-and-disney-delve-into-fantasia-music-evolved-for-kin/
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TBH I don't think many people had faith these would turn out to be stellar games, even the media. The problem is M$ has traditionally let gamers down with these 'exclusives' in the past, so there's a lot of mistrust out there. Contrast to when Sony says a new IP is coming, people know it's going to be something of quality given the studios behind them. Naughty Dog has been just one beacon of that trust.

 
i would not mind couple launch games for x1 to be kinect games if they are made really good and fun to play. that music game looks like it could be fun and makers of rock band which was great music games.

 
You lost me at really good Kinect games. I mean sure there's Dance Central and the Guntstringer, but that's about it as far as decent Kinect titles, much less good ones. Improved sensitivity doesn't make it any less ridiculous to yell complicated commands at the screen or make gestures when a button press will do the work better and faster. The real biggest problem with Kinect (and it will always be this way) is there is no weight to your heft or actions. A controller at least gives you something, and from the sounds of it the Xbox One controller is going to bring that to new levels which will make the disconnect with playing Kinect that much worse.

 
Erad30 said:
You lost me at really good Kinect games. I mean sure there's Dance Central and the Gunstringer, but that's about it as far as decent Kinect titles, much less good ones.
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Don't let Child of Eden, Fruit Ninja Kinect, Kinect Sports, Kinect Party, Kinectimals and Kinect + Nike Training go to the way side, they're good Kinect games. Carry on.

 
Spybreak8 said:
Erad30 said:
You lost me at really good Kinect games. I mean sure there's Dance Central and the Gunstringer, but that's about it as far as decent Kinect titles, much less good ones.
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Don't let Child of Eden, Fruit Ninja Kinect, Kinect Sports, Kinect Party, Kinectimals and Kinect + Nike Training go to the way side, they're good Kinect games. Carry on.
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Kinect is almost entirely a kid's thing in my household. I have one and it works fine for the kids games we have. There are almost no games I'm interested in playing on it. I have Fruit Ninja Kinect and we never use it. I couldn't give two shits about "nike training". We have the sports game and haven't played it in maybe 6 or 7 months. Kinect party the kids use....

Frankly, it's for kids. That's why most adult gamers find nothing good in it. I suppose Child of Eden could be described less childish but unfortunately that game is really hard. Too hard for me. I couldn't get past the first couple areas.

 
i don't think microsoft main goal with kinect is games it's mostly using it with other things on the system. Only real times i use my kinect is for things like netflix and other apps it's pretty cool to use netflix and not have to turn on the 360 controller after he goes alseep.

might i add i love this new website pretty cool

 
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If Microsoft failed with Xbox One, I doubt there would be another Xbox.
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I think they would try again. They have enough money they can fail dozens of times. That includes R&D, advertising, and subsidy costs each time. They wouldn't even have to take a loan. The large tech companies have so much cash on hand it's hard to imagine. Clearly they would give up before failing that many times as they are a profits driven company. If they were to fail a couple times in a row they would most likely try to sell off the Xbox division.


For reference on this, at the current stock price - MS can buy every single share of Sony stock FOUR TIMES.
 
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Blaster man said:
KingBroly said:
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I think they would try again. They have enough money they can fail dozens of times. That includes R&D, advertising, and subsidy costs each time. They wouldn't even have to take a loan. The large tech companies have so much cash on hand it's hard to imagine. Clearly they would give up before failing that many times as they are a profits driven company. If they were to fail a couple times in a row they would most likely try to sell off the Xbox division.


For reference on this, at the current stock price - MS can buy every single share of Sony stock FOUR TIMES.
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Buying stock doesn't quite work like that.

And no, I doubt Microsoft would consider it a lucrative business to have what they've wanted for years and have them fall flat on their asses hard trying to do it.

 
KingBroly said:
Blaster man said:
KingBroly said:
If Microsoft failed with Xbox One, I doubt there would be another Xbox.
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I think they would try again. They have enough money they can fail dozens of times. That includes R&D, advertising, and subsidy costs each time. They wouldn't even have to take a loan. The large tech companies have so much cash on hand it's hard to imagine. Clearly they would give up before failing that many times as they are a profits driven company. If they were to fail a couple times in a row they would most likely try to sell off the Xbox division.


For reference on this, at the current stock price - MS can buy every single share of Sony stock FOUR TIMES.
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Buying stock doesn't quite work like that.

And no, I doubt Microsoft would consider it a lucrative business to have what they've wanted for years and have them fall flat on their asses hard trying to do it.
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I knew someone was going to say something about my reference to stock. I'm well aware of the way it works. I actually purchase and own stock. It was for reference only and that's why I was careful int he way I said it. I didn't in any way imply otherwise. To be fair, you CAN buy stock like that over the long term. You just can't make a concerted effort to buy up all the stock in a short time. Believe it or not, it's incredibly common for large funds to buy up to 9 or 10% of a company's stock without the share price having massive spikes. They use computer algorithms to do it and they do it over a long period of time.

Again, that wasn't the point though. It was reference to just how much cash they have because when you're talking 80 billion dollars it's hard for many people to wrap their head around what that means. I really don't think MS would give up after one failure. Most likely they'll give it at least one more go - and fire a bunch of people responsible for this.

 
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Respawn's Titanfall leaked, set for PC, Xbox One and Xbox 360 - Eurogamer, leaked from NeoGaf.

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Confirmed on Google Play Store.

GI points how that the Xbox One has 5GB of GDDR3 ram available to devs, whereas PS4 has 8GB DDR5 ram, and asks if that's a problem for Respawn. He says they're having trouble even using the 5GB efficiently with all the new architecture tricks. (that is to say, even if they had 8GB they wouldn't know how to use it properly at this stage of development)

GI: "What XBox One lacks in RAM, it potentially makes up for in cloud computing." Talks about how the game will have unlimited dedicated servers for the game, offloading "a few dozen AI" and physics, says the game would be impossible without the cloud and wouldn't have attempted it. Still dealing with unfinished hardware and software, so it's "still a little rough going at times."
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- Xbox One, PC
- Xbox 360 version developed by someone else
- Planned to target current gen, but realized that they couldn't run it
- Started to look into next gen and the answer they got from Microsoft intrigued them
- They said they needed to focus on fewer hardware. In the future they are open to more. They don't specify if it would be this project or another.
- Plan to use Microsoft's Cloud for dedicated servers and physics and AI calculations
- Spring 2014 Release Date
- There are a good amount of screens. In my opinion it visually looks pretty nice.
- First person shooter
- "Mech" and ground combat
- "Mech's" are called Titans.
- They want these Titans to feel fast. They can dodge etc.
- If you don't want to pilot the Titan you can have it follow you, killing people as it goes along.
- Player characters are called Pilots
- They are extremely agile. Can run on walls, multiple jumps.
- They can take down Titans. Jumping on them and shooting the "brain".
- You need to be cunning as a pilot. "Hit and fade" tactics is the term the game director uses.
- Pilots come equipped with a variety of weapons. Pistol, Assault Rifle, Anti-Titan Rocket Launcher, data knife used to hack AI characters into joining you.
- There are AI enemies on the maps.
- You survive longer than in COD. Making it more welcoming to newcomers.
- Source Engine. Building new engine = too much time.
- Source gives them 60 fps
- Modified Source - "Rewriting major portions of it".
- Article talks about the process of forming the team, being fired, prototyping ideas etc. I recommend reading it.
- Going for a District 9 or Blade Runner vibe.
- Integrate memorable single player moments into a multiplayer game.
- Storytelling style will be more Left 4 Dead.
- Humans segregated between Earth and frontier planets. Corporation trying to take the resources of these frontier people.
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More info here.

 
If they can actually manage to do something new with the shooter genre I'll at least be intrigued. I think the last shooter to really get my attention was the original Modern Warfare because at the time it was a new idea.

 
Sounds promising.  But I'm not burnt out on FPS games either as I didn't really get into them (or WRPGs) much until this generation.  So that's mostly what I play these days as I got burnt out on Nintendo franchises, platformers and other genres I played a ton in past generations.

 
So what happens to a game that relies on "cloud computing" when the servers are down? All this talk of cloud computing sounds like some pr bs to put out there when the PS4 specs might be better.

 
Erad30 said:
If they can actually manage to do something new with the shooter genre I'll at least be intrigued. I think the last shooter to really get my attention was the original Modern Warfare because at the time it was a new idea.
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I don't think they are going to go in a new direction because of how successful it has been for many years already.

 
KingBroly said:
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let's be honest hear unless your a hardcore gamer and read up on gaming news you don't know anything about the xbox always online drm stuff. xbox one will do just fine.

that would be a big exclusive for microsoft. I know me and alot of people into gaming was looking forward to see what the old guys from mw 1 and mw2 would do when they got fired seeing they always made the best cods. I hope we see gameplay next week at e3.

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So what happens to a game that relies on "cloud computing" when the servers are down? All this talk of cloud computing sounds like some pr bs to put out there when the PS4 specs might be better.
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xbox 360 was even less power full to ps3 then x1 is to ps4 and most companys made games around 360 and then ported it to ps3. I'm not saying that is going to happen this gen but it's possible. It's more easy to port a game to a more power system then it is to port from high end to low end.

 
Blaster man said:
Spybreak8 said:
Erad30 said:
You lost me at really good Kinect games. I mean sure there's Dance Central and the Gunstringer, but that's about it as far as decent Kinect titles, much less good ones.
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Don't let Child of Eden, Fruit Ninja Kinect, Kinect Sports, Kinect Party, Kinectimals and Kinect + Nike Training go to the way side, they're good Kinect games. Carry on.
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Kinect is almost entirely a kid's thing in my household. I have one and it works fine for the kids games we have. There are almost no games I'm interested in playing on it. I have Fruit Ninja Kinect and we never use it. I couldn't give two shits about "nike training". We have the sports game and haven't played it in maybe 6 or 7 months. Kinect party the kids use....

Frankly, it's for kids. That's why most adult gamers find nothing good in it. I suppose Child of Eden could be described less childish but unfortunately that game is really hard. Too hard for me. I couldn't get past the first couple areas.
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Well that's your opinion yet I feel Kinect is for experiences you can't get anywhere else. I play Fruit Ninja on my phone as well but you don't get your full body in the action. The Nike + Training game actually acts as my gym, I've never gone to a monthly subscription gym system in my life. I think it's safe to say Kinect is for families, not just Kinect is for kids. I question if you think most Nintendo games are for kids. Kinect games can really shine giving you something new to experience. It's nice that Child of Eden can be played both ways but using the Kinect it feels fresh again. Having a Kinect with the system off the bat and with its technical improvements I'm hoping we'll see some more progress in this regards with the Xbox One.

 
Spybreak8 said:
Blaster man said:
Spybreak8 said:
Erad30 said:
You lost me at really good Kinect games. I mean sure there's Dance Central and the Gunstringer, but that's about it as far as decent Kinect titles, much less good ones.
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Don't let Child of Eden, Fruit Ninja Kinect, Kinect Sports, Kinect Party, Kinectimals and Kinect + Nike Training go to the way side, they're good Kinect games. Carry on.
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Kinect is almost entirely a kid's thing in my household. I have one and it works fine for the kids games we have. There are almost no games I'm interested in playing on it. I have Fruit Ninja Kinect and we never use it. I couldn't give two shits about "nike training". We have the sports game and haven't played it in maybe 6 or 7 months. Kinect party the kids use....

Frankly, it's for kids. That's why most adult gamers find nothing good in it. I suppose Child of Eden could be described less childish but unfortunately that game is really hard. Too hard for me. I couldn't get past the first couple areas.
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Well that's your opinion yet I feel Kinect is for experiences you can't get anywhere else. I play Fruit Ninja on my phone as well but you don't get your full body in the action. The Nike + Training game actually acts as my gym, I've never gone to a monthly subscription gym system in my life. I think it's safe to say Kinect is for families, not just Kinect is for kids. I question if you think most Nintendo games are for kids. Kinect games can really shine giving you something new to experience. It's nice that Child of Eden can be played both ways but using the Kinect it feels fresh again. Having a Kinect with the system off the bat and with its technical improvements I'm hoping we'll see some more progress in this regards with the Xbox One.
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i think kinect has more upside for feature then ps move for sure. nike + traning game is such a great game my kids love to play it me and my wife uses it. nike + traning is 200 times better then wii fit.

 
Spybreak8 said:
Well that's your opinion yet I feel Kinect is for experiences you can't get anywhere else. I play Fruit Ninja on my phone as well but you don't get your full body in the action. The Nike + Training game actually acts as my gym, I've never gone to a monthly subscription gym system in my life. I think it's safe to say Kinect is for families, not just Kinect is for kids. I question if you think most Nintendo games are for kids. Kinect games can really shine giving you something new to experience. It's nice that Child of Eden can be played both ways but using the Kinect it feels fresh again. Having a Kinect with the system off the bat and with its technical improvements I'm hoping we'll see some more progress in this regards with the Xbox One.
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Yeah, it's just a matter of whether you want those type of experiences. I play games to veg out and relax, so I have no interest in Kinect or motion control stuff in general. I run regularly, and have a gym in my condo building, for getting excercise. When I game I want to veg on the couch with a regular controller.

But to each their own of course. Kinect works pretty well for those types of games for those who like them, and I'm sure the new Kinect will work even better.

 
TimboSliceGB said:
let's be honest hear unless your a hardcore gamer and read up on gaming news you don't know anything about the xbox always online drm stuff. xbox one will do just fine.

xbox 360 was even less power full to ps3 then x1 is to ps4 and most companys made games around 360 and then ported it to ps3. I'm not saying that is going to happen this gen but it's possible. It's more easy to port a game to a more power system then it is to port from high end to low end.
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It's true that the more inolved gaming fans are the only ones who are going to know or care about the technical details surrounding these systems. The general consumer is only interested in what it will do for them.

But that brings us to a much more signficant factor...price.

Michael Pachter (a well-known video game business analyst) is predicting that the PS4 will be sold for $350, and the XBox One will come out at $400. Personally, I think his estimates are too low, and that it is much more likely for them to hit the same price point. Sony has already stated that they won't be taking the same loss-leader approach with this system. They'll price it a little higher so as not to lose massive amounts of money on the hardware sales. Microsoft is probably a little more willing to throw money at the XBox One, but they have the extra hardware expense of the Kinect to constrain them. My guess is that both consoles are going to be priced in the $400 - $500 range.

At that price, very few general consumers are going to be interested in these boxes. The transition for these systems is going to be very gradual, with the PS3 and 360 getting most of the sales for holiday 2013, and well into 2015.

The real strength of the 360 in terms of porting was in its architecture, not in its relative power. The 360 was better-designed hardware for producing games, with several hardware-specific features that made the process easier on developers. (such as the part of their GPU that was dedicated solely to anti-aliasing) The XBox One isn't going to enjoy the same advantages. Sony finally got their act together, and the PS4 is shaping up to be an extremely attractive platform for easy porting. At the very least, the PS4 is going to have parity with titles primarily targeted at the XBox One. (an advantage the PS3 didn't enjoy)

 
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From my twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/342712681167482880






Patrick Klepek ‏@patrickklepek

Microsoft cancelled my one-on-one interviews with Xbox executives at E3. Bummer.
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So wait...they cancelled their post-conference roundtable, now they are possibly going through and cancelling interviews also?

Ugh.

And apparently someone from the GAF forums who has been right on many occasions when it came to rumors posted this:

I mentioned the other day that I was hearing rumors of Microsoft throwing around a considerable amount of money to have publishers only show games on the Xbox One during E3. Most people dismissed my admittedly flakey news as 'that's what always happens.'


I've talked to more people since then though and this isn't the usual jostling for publishers on stage that happens at E3. Microsoft is throwing BIG money around to reverse course on idea that they aren't a games console. The rumors are that PS4 versions of multiplats, by those who do take the money, won't be shown AT ALL. Not on stage and not on the show floor.


I don't feel bad for Sony because business is business. I'm sure they will find a way to have a decent show... or they will have to recover afterwards. That's not really my concern.


Now, there's no need to take my word on this if you don't want to. But do keep an eye on E3 next week. With them buying up everything in sight and now potentially cutting an open roundtable out(to assumedly talk one on one with friendly press) and word that finding multiplat games on the ps4 on the show floor will be much harder than anticipated.... just keep an eye on it. Maybe my sources are wrong. But I feel confident enough in this info to share it.


I'm not saying to jump to conclusions. I'm just saying it may be something to keep an eye on.
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4thHorseman said:
Blaster man said:
From my twitter feed...

https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/342712681167482880






Patrick Klepek ‏@patrickklepek

Microsoft cancelled my one-on-one interviews with Xbox executives at E3. Bummer.
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So wait...they cancelled their post-conference roundtable, now they are possibly going through and cancelling interviews also?

Ugh.

And apparently someone from the GAF forums who has been right on many occasions when it came to rumors posted this:

I mentioned the other day that I was hearing rumors of Microsoft throwing around a considerable amount of money to have publishers only show games on the Xbox One during E3. Most people dismissed my admittedly flakey news as 'that's what always happens.'


I've talked to more people since then though and this isn't the usual jostling for publishers on stage that happens at E3. Microsoft is throwing BIG money around to reverse course on idea that they aren't a games console. The rumors are that PS4 versions of multiplats, by those who do take the money, won't be shown AT ALL. Not on stage and not on the show floor.


I don't feel bad for Sony because business is business. I'm sure they will find a way to have a decent show... or they will have to recover afterwards. That's not really my concern.


Now, there's no need to take my word on this if you don't want to. But do keep an eye on E3 next week. With them buying up everything in sight and now potentially cutting an open roundtable out(to assumedly talk one on one with friendly press) and word that finding multiplat games on the ps4 on the show floor will be much harder than anticipated.... just keep an eye on it. Maybe my sources are wrong. But I feel confident enough in this info to share it.


I'm not saying to jump to conclusions. I'm just saying it may be something to keep an eye on.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=577741
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So am I to understand that the rumor is Microsoft is actively paying publishers not to show any of their multi-platform (Xbox One/PS4) titles at E3? That seems preposterous. If that actually does happen though, E3 will completely lose any shred of credibility. For one publisher/platform to be able to completely buy their way to prominence is ridiculous.

 
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RedvsBlue said:
4thHorseman said:
Blaster man said:
From my twitter feed...
https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/342712681167482880



Patrick Klepek ‏@patrickklepek
Microsoft cancelled my one-on-one interviews with Xbox executives at E3. Bummer.
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So wait...they cancelled their post-conference roundtable, now they are possibly going through and cancelling interviews also?

Ugh.

And apparently someone from the GAF forums who has been right on many occasions when it came to rumors posted this:
I mentioned the other day that I was hearing rumors of Microsoft throwing around a considerable amount of money to have publishers only show games on the Xbox One during E3. Most people dismissed my admittedly flakey news as 'that's what always happens.'


I've talked to more people since then though and this isn't the usual jostling for publishers on stage that happens at E3. Microsoft is throwing BIG money around to reverse course on idea that they aren't a games console. The rumors are that PS4 versions of multiplats, by those who do take the money, won't be shown AT ALL. Not on stage and not on the show floor.


I don't feel bad for Sony because business is business. I'm sure they will find a way to have a decent show... or they will have to recover afterwards. That's not really my concern.


Now, there's no need to take my word on this if you don't want to. But do keep an eye on E3 next week. With them buying up everything in sight and now potentially cutting an open roundtable out(to assumedly talk one on one with friendly press) and word that finding multiplat games on the ps4 on the show floor will be much harder than anticipated.... just keep an eye on it. Maybe my sources are wrong. But I feel confident enough in this info to share it.


I'm not saying to jump to conclusions. I'm just saying it may be something to keep an eye on.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=577741
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So am I to understand that the rumor is Microsoft is actively paying publishers not to show any of their multi-platform (Xbox One/PS4) titles at E3? That seems preposterous. If that actually does happen though, E3 will completely lose any shred of credibility. For one publisher/platform to be able to completely buy their way to prominence is ridiculous.
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You misinterpret it. The rumor is MS is paying big money to ONLY show the XbOne version. The PS4 version will not be there or mentioned. This is to give the impression that the XbOne is a gamer's console and that the PS4 isn't as great as people believe because it "has no games". Basically the rumor is they're trying to deceive people.
 
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So am I to understand that the rumor is Microsoft is actively paying publishers not to show any of their multi-platform (Xbox One/PS4) titles at E3? That seems preposterous. If that actually does happen though, E3 will completely lose any shred of credibility. For one publisher/platform to be able to completely buy their way to prominence is ridiculous.
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EDIT: Blaster Man ninja'd me...

 
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You misinterpret it. The rumor is MS is paying big money to ONLY show the XbOne version. The PS4 version will not be there or mentioned. This is to give the impression that the XbOne is a gamer's console and that the PS4 is t as great as people believe because it "has no games". Basically the rumor is they're trying to deceive people.
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Ah, I see. Rest of my post still stands, for one publisher/platform to be able to completely manipulate the entire show is garbage.

 
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