2009 MLB Discussion Thread

Wow, I think its safe to say that John Smoltz should just retire. He has only pitched 1 single good game while he has been back. Well its not over yet..but if Melky hits another 3 run shot here. Its over. At least Beckett is up tomorrow and he usually wins after a loss. Still a long series. ill be watching this series all weekend.
 
Didn't get to post last night, but Jorge Posada is damn lucky they won that game. He didn't just NOT slide. He ran into the freaking tag.

Also, the new stadium definitely needs some adjustments in the offseason. The first three homeruns (Pedroia, Damon, Kotchman) were a joke. I still don't know how Pedroia hit that one out, neither does Chamberlain for that matter.

The Yankees are clearly the better team at this point in time. The Sox need at least 1 (probably 2) starter(s) to perform at a league average level. Lester and Beckett are the only guys going more than 6 innings at the moment. I can live with 3-4 earned runs, but 5 inning after 5 inning start is getting old.
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']Didn't get to post last night, but Jorge Posada is damn lucky they won that game. He didn't just NOT slide. He ran into the freaking tag.

Also, the new stadium definitely needs some adjustments in the offseason. The first three homeruns (Pedroia, Damon, Kotchman) were a joke. I still don't know how Pedroia hit that one out, neither does Chamberlain for that matter.

The Yankees are clearly the better team at this point in time. The Sox need at least 1 (probably 2) starter(s) to perform at a league average level. Lester and Beckett are the only guys going more than 6 innings at the moment. I can live with 3-4 earned runs, but 5 inning after 5 inning start is getting old.[/QUOTE]

i dont think they were lucky. They cracked the bats open in 1 inning and it was all over. John Smoltz should just be either put in the bullpen or released. He doesn't have it anymore. Yeah the new yankee stadium is now the new Coors Field. i think it was built on their current strengths and its working for them.

Yeah the Sox need pitching. I though depth would carry them...but when Smoltz and Penny just stink and you have bring back Paul Byrd.....im not to confident in the Sox rotation at the moment. they need to split or take the next 3 because it may not look good for the sox if they are swept and are no 6 1/2 back of the yanks and then behind Texas in teh W.C. Beckett is up tonight and he usually wins after a loss..so at least thats good news for sox fans.
 
Smoltz's career was euthanized today. Tazawa is up to replace him on the roster, hope he's ready. He's risen through the organization very quickly, though he's probably not starting.

The problem is that Matsuzaka and Wakefield are both hurt at the same time. At least Wakefield will be making meaningful contributions to the team again at some point this year. They can get by with a rotation of Beckett, Lester, Wake, Buchholz, and Penny. They won't get anywhere if their 3/4/5 hitters don't do shit though.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']i dont think they were lucky. They cracked the bats open in 1 inning and it was all over. John Smoltz should just be either put in the bullpen or released. He doesn't have it anymore. Yeah the new yankee stadium is now the new Coors Field. i think it was built on their current strengths and its working for them.

Yeah the Sox need pitching. I though depth would carry them...but when Smoltz and Penny just stink and you have bring back Paul Byrd.....im not to confident in the Sox rotation at the moment. they need to split or take the next 3 because it may not look good for the sox if they are swept and are no 6 1/2 back of the yanks and then behind Texas in teh W.C. Beckett is up tonight and he usually wins after a loss..so at least thats good news for sox fans.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say the Yankees got lucky. I said Posada is lucky they weren't on the losing end of a game. HUGE difference.

Though I can see how you could read my post as sour grapes from a sox fan.
 
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It's amazing what good pitching can do to a "launching pad". Yankees - Red Sox game is crazy tonight! Both team's bullpens are going to be toast after this 4 game set though. Last night, the pitching was so bad the bullpens couldn't get a rest. Tonight, the pitching is so good the bullpen's can't get a rest. Those guys can't fucking win! lol
 
I won't say whether I believe Papi or not but his story is certainly plausible. Of the 103 names from 2003, 8 are known to have not tested positive for steroids at all, and an additional 13 were in dispute. The union didn't pursue it because the number in dispute wouldn't have affected the testing program going forward and because the names were supposed to stay secret.

Whether he did it or not it'll all come out eventually. He's certainly not using any helpful drugs now, he could really use some though.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I won't say whether I believe Papi or not but his story is certainly plausible. Of the 103 names from 2003, 8 are known to have not tested positive for steroids at all, and an additional 13 were in dispute. The union didn't pursue it because the number in dispute wouldn't have affected the testing program going forward and because the names were supposed to stay secret.

Whether he did it or not it'll all come out eventually. He's certainly not using any helpful drugs now, he could really use some though.[/QUOTE]

Like I said on another forum. You could say it was the job of the player in question to know what he was putting in his body. You could also say that because there was no testing (or penalty) and the stuff was available over-the-counter at any shopping mall in the country, why should he care.
 
I stopped caring about who did it or who didn't it. The reality is, a lot of people were, and in the heads of most fans, the era is tainted. They test now. People have gotten caught. Hopefully, we can all move on.

I do think it's complete bullshit that these names are getting leaked. It's just not right, any way you wanna look at it.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']I stopped caring about who did it or who didn't it. The reality is, a lot of people were, and in the heads of most fans, the era is tainted. They test now. People have gotten caught. Hopefully, we can all move on.

I do think it's complete bullshit that these names are getting leaked. It's just not right, any way you wanna look at it.[/QUOTE]

It should be noted that the list wasn't an issue until the Federal Government decided to get involved.
 
Man, the Red Sox offense is TERRIBLE. They've been blanked for 24 straight innings, and only have 8 hits in that span. They better get it together quick if they don't want to be passed by Texas and Tampa Bay.
 
Mike Lowell is the slowest human being on the face of the planet. The Sox had an EXPLOSION of offense in the top of the seventh and somehow managed to get runners on first and second with one out. Lowell grounds to Cano, who flips it to Jeter, who tags second, hops over Youkilis' takeout slide, has a sandwich, and fires to first to get Lowell by like three steps.

Sigh.
 
Offseason needs:

#3, #4, and #5 hitters that are corner infielders or outfielders
Shortstop
Catcher
#2 Starting Pitcher
#3 Starting Pitcher
Hitting Coach


Another interesting fact: 4 of the 5 highest paid Red Sox are Ortiz, Lowell, Drew, and Matsuzaka.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Offseason needs:

#3, #4, and #5 hitters that are corner infielders or outfielders
Shortstop
Catcher
#2 Starting Pitcher
#3 Starting Pitcher
Hitting Coach


Another interesting fact: 4 of the 5 highest paid Red Sox are Ortiz, Lowell, Drew, and Matsuzaka.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to have to disagree on a few things with you. I believe the Sox really need that heart of the order, #4 hitter. The player should be a lefty, to sandwich between Youk and Bay, or vice versa. In a perfect world, Martinez fills that spot, but I think he'll be in the 6 hole as the catcher, where he'll produce nicely.

SS is a glaring problem. Hopefully, Lowrie can atleast be a stop gap. I think the rotation at the top is set with Beckett and Lester. Wake is #4 if he is able to come back and cover 1B. If not, Clay is an alright 4.

I think Theo may go back to the rumored talks with the M's about Felix. As well as the Pads about Gonzalez. He's bound to make a splash if this team is on the outside looking in come post season.
 
Yeah, Beckett and Lester will definitely be a solid top two. The offense is a real problem, especially with so many guys signed on for next year too. The problem at catcher is that Tito is still going to give the majority of starts to Varitek. Of course, it's not all that feasible to start Martinez there everyday - he's been splitting time for a couple years now. Still, 3 starts a week for Varitek is 3 starts too many.

I'm guessing they'll make a big run at Holliday. It'll be interesting to see how hard they go after Bay... I guess a lot depends if he can pull himself out of this horrific slump anytime soon.

Sure would be nice to have Gonzalez for the next 5-10 years, though.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']Hey there, who said Holliday is going to run away from the warm caress of Cardinal Nation? :)[/QUOTE]


Damn Cardinals. It's OK to lose once in awhile... As much as I hate the Cardinals my hats off to LaRussa. Every year people try and write him off and all he does is piece together a contender from whatever he has.


The Cubs are hanging in there at the moment but everytime we get one player back another one bites the dust (Big Z is on the DL now). That and we've been playing horrible defense.
 
[quote name='elpolloestupendo']Yeah, Beckett and Lester will definitely be a solid top two. The offense is a real problem, especially
with so many guys signed on for next year too. The problem at catcher is that Tito is still going to give the majority of starts to Varitek. Of course, it's not all that feasible to start Martinez there everyday - he's been splitting time for a couple years now. Still, 3 starts a week for Varitek is 3 starts too many.

I'm guessing they'll make a big run at Holliday. It'll be interesting to see how hard they go after Bay... I guess a lot depends if he can pull himself out of this horrific slump anytime soon.

Sure would be nice to have Gonzalez for the next 5-10 years, though.[/QUOTE]

The nice thing about the C situation is, I'm pretty sure, that Varitek is only on a one year deal. I know he'll be resigned, but I think it will be time to give him 2 days a week and defensive sub responsibilites. He's the captin for a reason, but its not his hitting.

I think Holliday will stay in St Louis, but at a premium. If he stays, I see Pujols taking a major, astronomical, pay cut to stay in St Louis. He'll get good money, but less than A Rod, Teiex, and Manny. He deserves to be paid like them, based on ability, but he's a bigger man if he takes a "hometown" discount to stay in StL.

I really see the Red Sox going hard after guys via a trade. I'd love to see them swing a deal for either Adrian Gonzalez or Felix Hernandez. Either one will cost a pretty penny, but I think the Sox would be ok, farm wise, if they were some how able to hold onto the key core in the farm.
 
Pujols already makes about $14-$15 mil right now and the club option for 2011 is $16 million. If Holliday and DeRosa stay, I see Pujols' salary remaining flat even after an extension.

The Cardinals WILL NOT pay Holliday more than Pujols, period. The only question that remains is will the negotiations be like they were for Lohse last year, or they were for Drew a few years ago (both also Scott Boras clients.)

I've yet to hear any of the St. Louis media talk about or interview Edmonds on Holliday wearing #15. I'm sure Jimbo isn't too happy about it.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']Hey there, who said Holliday is going to run away from the warm caress of Cardinal Nation? :)[/QUOTE]

The issue is signing him long-term. His agent is Scott Boras. You choose Boras as you agent because you want to get paid.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']Pujols already makes about $14-$15 mil right now and the club option for 2011 is $16 million. If Holliday and DeRosa stay, I see Pujols' salary remaining flat even after an extension.

The Cardinals WILL NOT pay Holliday more than Pujols, period. The only question that remains is will the negotiations be like they were for Lohse last year, or they were for Drew a few years ago (both also Scott Boras clients.)

I've yet to hear any of the St. Louis media talk about or interview Edmonds on Holliday wearing #15. I'm sure Jimbo isn't too happy about it.[/QUOTE]

Pujols won't make a dime less than $20 million per year. Probably closer to $25.

Also, unless they give Pujols and extension prior to resigning Holliday, Holliday will be the highest paid player on the Cardinals. Heck, he made $13.5 million in his final season before free agency.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']The nice thing about the C situation is, I'm pretty sure, that Varitek is only on a one year deal. I know he'll be resigned, but I think it will be time to give him 2 days a week and defensive sub responsibilites. He's the captin for a reason, but its not his hitting.

I think Holliday will stay in St Louis, but at a premium. If he stays, I see Pujols taking a major, astronomical, pay cut to stay in St Louis. He'll get good money, but less than A Rod, Teiex, and Manny. He deserves to be paid like them, based on ability, but he's a bigger man if he takes a "hometown" discount to stay in StL.

I really see the Red Sox going hard after guys via a trade. I'd love to see them swing a deal for either Adrian Gonzalez or Felix Hernandez. Either one will cost a pretty penny, but I think the Sox would be ok, farm wise, if they were some how able to hold onto the key core in the farm.[/QUOTE]

King Felix will NEVER be traded. The Seatle GM considered him his own "baby" lol
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I'm going to have to disagree on a few things with you. I believe the Sox really need that heart of the order, #4 hitter. The player should be a lefty, to sandwich between Youk and Bay, or vice versa. In a perfect world, Martinez fills that spot, but I think he'll be in the 6 hole as the catcher, where he'll produce nicely.

SS is a glaring problem. Hopefully, Lowrie can atleast be a stop gap. I think the rotation at the top is set with Beckett and Lester. Wake is #4 if he is able to come back and cover 1B. If not, Clay is an alright 4.

I think Theo may go back to the rumored talks with the M's about Felix. As well as the Pads about Gonzalez. He's bound to make a splash if this team is on the outside looking in come post season.[/QUOTE]
They need a top 2 caliber starting pitcher. Not necessarily to supplant Lester, but because they're going to need two ace type pitchers and a Lester in order to compete with the Yankees. They're not Kansas City, they can afford it. They need another solid starter on top of that, I don't know if Matsuzaka, Buchholz, or Bowden give you that next year. They don't need another ridiculous Dan Duquette reclamation project in the rotation for 5 million dollars like Smoltz or Penny.

Sabathia, Burnett, Wang, Chamberlain, Hughes. Beckett, Lester, and... Maybe Wakefield? Who else can you really count on going into next year? Not Matsuzaka, not Buchholz. Wake's the perfect #5 and makes #5 money.

Right now the Sox don't have anybody I feel good about having hit 3 or 4. Youkilis and Bay are guys that are great #5 hitters but are guys you try to upgrade from if they're hitting 3rd or 4th. They could be the two best hitters on some NL West team, not the Boston Red Sox. They're nowhere near the caliber of Teixeira, Arod, or what Manny and Papi were. Most playoff teams have a better 3-4 combo than that.

Victor Martinez is a guy who ideally would hit down in the order, 6th or later on a good team. Thats outstanding for a catcher, but for a 1B/DH? Thats terrible. They need a lot more production and power out of the corner positions than that. Is a good hitting catcher two days a week worth being stuck with an offensively average at best 1st baseman or DH the rest of the time?
 
[quote name='ohboy10451']Cards will not resign Holliday. Its a fact. Hes a rental player.[/QUOTE]

Don't they need to at make a solid effort to try and resign him? The Cards don't have a lot in the high minors after the two trades and I doubt Pujols will resign if they aren't still competitive in 2011.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']They need a top 2 caliber starting pitcher. Not necessarily to supplant Lester, but because they're going to need two ace type pitchers and a Lester in order to compete with the Yankees. They're not Kansas City, they can afford it. They need another solid starter on top of that, I don't know if Matsuzaka, Buchholz, or Bowden give you that next year. They don't need another ridiculous Dan Duquette reclamation project in the rotation for 5 million dollars like Smoltz or Penny.
[/QUOTE]

I'm with you on the hitting, but Lester IS an ace type pitcher at this point. Last year was phenomenal and sure, he had a rocky April and May, but he was incredibly unlucky. His K and BB rates were both still excellent. He's third in the AL in Ks, and his ERA since May is just about 2. He's an ace.
 
[quote name='elpolloestupendo']I'm with you on the hitting, but Lester IS an ace type pitcher at this point. Last year was phenomenal and sure, he had a rocky April and May, but he was incredibly unlucky. His K and BB rates were both still excellent. He's third in the AL in Ks, and his ERA since May is just about 2. He's an ace.[/QUOTE]
When he's cruising he's unhittable, but when he faces adversity he falls apart. He's still a young pitcher, the mental toughness isn't quite there.

But my point is that they need a 3rd pitcher of that caliber, the dropoff from Beckett and Lester to the rest is precipitous. The back end of that rotation is the original cash for clunkers.
 
[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']Damon![/QUOTE]

[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']LOL...Tex![/QUOTE]

Damnit!!

Damon and Tex have benefited from the new stadium more than any 2 players.

(though, I'm not saying those ball wouldn't have gone out in other parks)
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']Damnit!!

Damon and Tex have benefited from the new stadium more than any 2 players.

(though, I'm not saying those ball wouldn't have gone out in other parks)[/QUOTE]

[quote name='dafoomie']Hit Tracker says Teixeira's wasn't a home run anywhere in baseball but Yankee Stadium.[/QUOTE]

Wah and wah. Notice how this wasn't a problem in the 15 inning game the other night? Or the fact that the Sox had gone 31 straight innings without scoring a run before that Martinez homer. The "launching pad" is greatly exagerrated. You had a rookie pitcher who throws hard get taken deep back to back. Those are the breaks. Remember when Boston hit four straight homers off of Chase Wright in Fenway? Yeah, so do we. Not so much fun now is it?
 
I don't know if they were complaining about it. I will add my two cents, though. Many stadiums have their quirks. But when you're playing a team, you're playing in the same stadium, so it's not like the home team has an unfair advantage. It's not like the right-field wall gets closer or lower when the Yankees get up.

And honestly, the homerun pace has dramatically fallen off. Early in the year, the Stadium was ahead of the Coors Field pace. Now, going into the game, I think it was 15 off. And I don't think it's a coincidence that the home run pace has fallen off as the Yankee pitching has improved.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Wah and wah. Notice how this wasn't a problem in the 15 inning game the other night? Or the fact that the Sox had gone 31 straight innings without scoring a run before that Martinez homer. The "launching pad" is greatly exagerrated. You had a rookie pitcher who throws hard get taken deep back to back. Those are the breaks. Remember when Boston hit four straight homers off of Chase Wright in Fenway? Yeah, so do we. Not so much fun now is it?[/QUOTE]

Why are you talking so much trash? Our posts might have had a hint of frustratioin, but they were both completely objective.

Your post screams of something Joe Morgan would say. Good pitching beats good hitting. Park doesn't look so hitter friendly with Randy Johnson on the mound. The Yankee veteran's experience allowed them to succeed against rookie Dan Bard.

You can have your arbitrary games to analyze. I'll take statistics accumulated over the course of an entire season.
 
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[quote name='bigdaddybruce44'] Many stadiums have their quirks. But when you're playing a team, you're playing in the same stadium, so it's not like the home team has an unfair advantage. It's not like the right-field wall gets closer or lower when the Yankees get up.
[/QUOTE]

I remember when everyone was complaining at the beginning of the year and I thought it was great cause Yankee stadium was a tough place to go win. Crowd might be louder than ever now but you still have a better chance at cranking some RBIs there. Loud or not. Sucks the Sox couldn't pull any off this weekend though. I know just winning 1 they woulda still been behind but at least they'd have more than 0% dignity.

And wow CAG is huge I didn't know where to start but I'm very pleased there's a on going MLB disscussion. Was starting think I was the only one left that enjoyed Baseball!?
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']Why are you talking so much trash? Our posts might have had a hint of frustratioin, but they were both completely objective.

Your post screams of something Joe Morgan would say. Good pitching beats good hitting. Park doesn't look so hitter friendly with Randy Johnson on the mound. The Yankee veteran's experience allowed them to succeed against rookie Dan Bard.

You can have your arbitrary games to analyze. I'll take statistics accumulated over the course of an entire season.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry if I reacted a bit defensively to your frustration. But I don't really get you comparing it to a Joe Morgan quote as if it's wrong though. At the beginning of the year, home runs were being hit at an astronomical rate at the Stadium because the pitching was TERRIBLE. Now, the pitching (both starting and relief) has gotten tremendously better, and the number of home runs per game has gone down. The statistics at the end of the year will reflect that.

Knowing that, you either have to believe that the Yankee pitching is really THAT good to tame a bandbox/launching pad/whatever else critics want to call it. OR those claims were exagerrated, and it's nowhere near as bad as the early season numbers would have you believe. And as Bruce said, both teams were playing in the same Stadium. If you're frustrated by two 8th inning home runs, be mad at Bard for grooving two pitches. Don't blame the stadium.

I can be objective about this series. I can tell you 100% that the main reason the Yankees swept it was because of the improvements they've made on the pitching staff. The last few years, the Yankees could put up runs, but they had pitchers who would give them right back. This year, it's finally starting to look like 1998 all over again. And the Red Sox are starting to see what happened to the Yanks the past 4-5 years. Key contributors getting hurt or old or both. All of a sudden you look up and you're needing to retool your entire pitching staff or heart of your batting order. It sucks.
 
I think over the last 33 games or so, there's been an average of like 2.6 home runs at the Stadium. Still higher than the 2 a game last year throughout last year, but just look at the Yankee line-up this year. They added Tex. Posada is healthy. Matsui has been in the line-up most of the time. Cano is back on track. Melky has found a little extra pop.
 
As a Yankee fan, I certainly know it frustrates the balls out of me when I see a pop-up glance off the Monster for a double. But that's the way that stadium plays, and I know plenty of Yankee pop-ups have done the same over the years.

I'm not gonna pretend that something is apparently off about right field in the new Stadium, but I still think people were way too quick to write it off as a complete joke. I think through like 23 games, there was like an average of like 3.8 home runs. Since, it's more like 2.6. And if you look at the Yankee line-up, and the fact that they play in the AL East, with the Red Sox and the Rays, you'd expect some home runs to be hit in that place once and awhile.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I'm sorry if I reacted a bit defensively to your frustration. But I don't really get you comparing it to a Joe Morgan quote as if it's wrong though. At the beginning of the year, home runs were being hit at an astronomical rate at the Stadium because the pitching was TERRIBLE. Now, the pitching (both starting and relief) has gotten tremendously better, and the number of home runs per game has gone down. The statistics at the end of the year will reflect that.

Knowing that, you either have to believe that the Yankee pitching is really THAT good to tame a bandbox/launching pad/whatever else critics want to call it. OR those claims were exagerrated, and it's nowhere near as bad as the early season numbers would have you believe. And as Bruce said, both teams were playing in the same Stadium. If you're frustrated by two 8th inning home runs, be mad at Bard for grooving two pitches. Don't blame the stadium.

I can be objective about this series. I can tell you 100% that the main reason the Yankees swept it was because of the improvements they've made on the pitching staff. The last few years, the Yankees could put up runs, but they had pitchers who would give them right back. This year, it's finally starting to look like 1998 all over again. And the Red Sox are starting to see what happened to the Yanks the past 4-5 years. Key contributors getting hurt or old or both. All of a sudden you look up and you're needing to retool your entire pitching staff or heart of your batting order. It sucks.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']As a Yankee fan, I certainly know it frustrates the balls out of me when I see a pop-up glance off the Monster for a double. But that's the way that stadium plays, and I know plenty of Yankee pop-ups have done the same over the years.

I'm not gonna pretend that something is apparently off about right field in the new Stadium, but I still think people were way too quick to write it off as a complete joke. I think through like 23 games, there was like an average of like 3.8 home runs. Since, it's more like 2.6. And if you look at the Yankee line-up, and the fact that they play in the AL East, with the Red Sox and the Rays, you'd expect some home runs to be hit in that place once and awhile.[/QUOTE]

n8rockerasu, it's fine. You're estatic right now and you have every reason to be. This is by far the best Yankee team since 2001. Some of the 2003-2008 teams were like caveman teams. BEAT OVER HEAD, SCORE RUNS, UGH!!! Problem was they had a lot of aging starting pitchers. You have an Anchor in Sabathia, Rivera at the end, and now a bridge to the 7th or 8th inning in Hughes in case one of Chamberlain, Burnett, Pettitte struggles (Ramiro Mendoza 2.0). Your team is the favorite to win the World Series.

The Sox lost any realistic shot at winning the division on Saturday. 4.5 is was huge lead and 6.5 is well... the largest in baseball. The Sox season will be decided over the next 7 days.

The only thing left for the Yankees to figure out is why they always rollover for the Angels.
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']Don't they need to at make a solid effort to try and resign him? The Cards don't have a lot in the high minors after the two trades and I doubt Pujols will resign if they aren't still competitive in 2011.[/QUOTE]

they dont have the cash. If they do give in to his demands then you can expect cuts at other positions.
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']The only thing left for the Yankees to figure out is why they always rollover for the Angels.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's still in the back of my mind as well. Although, to be honest, even with as well as the Yanks had been playing since the break, I was really nervous about the series with the Red Sox. Considering the way the Red Sox demoralized them at the beginning of the year, and coming off some less than stellar games against the White Sox, I wasn't sure how they were going to respond.

I honestly felt it was reaching a point where they were afraid of the Red Sox, and just laid down for them. But to see them come out and win every type of game (blowout, pitchers duel, shutout, and comeback) really seemed to bring some of the swagger back. From here on out, the Yankees just gotta focus on winning series. If they do that, nobody will catch them.
 
Good to see Youkilis get judo flipped by someone 400 lbs lighter than him. Joba's thrown at him at least 10 times...but instead he goes after a guy who needs his teammates' help to buy booze.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Throwing his helmet at Porcello was a total bitch move, no matter how many times he got beaned.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, what he did was stupid, but that injected life into the team and Lowell. Good God, where has that Lowell been all season. But the difference in the length of his suspension, is going to be determined by how the governing body calls his helmet toss. If its a flip/toss it will be lighter. A throw and he's out a week or more.

But on the other side of it, Porcello should get time too. High and tight on Martinez, fine. Then to hit Youk on the next one, thats insane. Beckett got 5, or 3, games for throwing over Abreu earlier in the season, so that should be what comes along.

With all that said, I'd be happy with no suspension, but that would be a bit niave.

All in all, good to see the Sox hold on and win another one. Though I'm confused on how long it takes to call a rain delayed game. It had gone 6 and could've been called. I understand that this is a very important game and has an impact on the post season, so I guess thats reason enough.
 
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