CAG League Sports: Madden 12 "JV League" - We Finished 3 Seasons! Thanks Everybody!!!

[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']
Well, the problem with this idea is if anybody's secondary team makes the playoffs and their primary doesn't. I wouldn't want to take away someone's chance at playing in the playoffs. I do like the idea for anyone with two teams that make it though. Maybe offer the extra teams to people who just missed the playoffs. At least that way more people would be included and it would give a few people "new life". I also have an idea in mind for what to do with secondary teams for next season, but I want to wait at least until the playoffs are under way before discussing it. Don't want to give too much away. :)
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I agree, and was thinking that in my head (though I didn't translate that well to my post). For example, if I take the Jets and they make the playoffs (likely), there is no need for me to play their games when someone else could enjoy that atmosphere if I make the playoffs with the Falcons (hopeful).

Looking forward to that idea on secondary teams though. Not even a hint? ;)
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']The first rule is ironclad. The second could be more flexible though, as long as you don't have a game against your primary. That is up to the commish.[/QUOTE]

I'd rather he take the Bears...unless he's just vehemently opposed to it. I think doing 1 AFC/1 NFC just gives us better balance. Having 2 teams in the same conference is going to give you games against a lot of the same teams...even if your two teams aren't matched up.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']No idea what this statement means.

So, you only want a secondary team if you can rape their roster and juice your primary team? Well, that sounds reasonable, lol.[/QUOTE]

Though I was joking, honestly I don't think it is bad if players are trading between their two teams if the trades are even, but just benefit the two teams in different ways.

That actually gets into my first comment a little bit. I just think having secondary teams does something weird for league competition. Whether it gives players two chances at the playoffs, limits trades that would otherwise be reasonable, or lets you try to potentially eliminate rivals through your secondary team (not conference ones since you have a procedure for the teams we can pick, but just in general). It probably isn't worse than playing a load of CPU games, but it just seems off to me.
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']Though I was joking, honestly I don't think it is bad if players are trading between their two teams if the trades are even, but just benefit the two teams in different ways.

That actually gets into my first comment a little bit. I just think having secondary teams does something weird for league competition. Whether it gives players two chances at the playoffs, limits trades that would otherwise be reasonable, or lets you try to potentially eliminate rivals through your secondary team (not conference ones since you have a procedure for the teams we can pick, but just in general). It probably isn't worse than playing a load of CPU games, but it just seems off to me.[/QUOTE]

I see your points, but most of them are just symptoms of not having 32 owners. No matter how you slice it, without a full league, you have to make concessions. If we just let the CPU run them, I would think we would still ban trades with those teams, so you are still just as limited.

Honestly, I think the best argument that could be made that would sway me to CPU over secondary would be that it should help with getting games done on time. Much easier to take a free hour and pound out a game against the CPU than to schedule against someone where it isn't their primary team (and thus, not their primary concern).

Like I said, you had valid points, but I think you could justify all of them with the way we are currently operating. It just comes down to having secondary teams vs CPU, and I feel secondary is better personally as it assures the absolute most human vs human games are played. But, sounds like n8 has a potential solution anyhow.
 
Yeah that's fine I am cool with taking the Bears.

EDIT: Wow, I just looked and it looks like I have n8 two weeks in a row. This can't be good. :)
 
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[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']Though I was joking, honestly I don't think it is bad if players are trading between their two teams if the trades are even, but just benefit the two teams in different ways.[/QUOTE]

I disagree with this completely. Even if the trades were "even", you would have free reign to build the type of team you wanted. "Oh, I'm just trading an A potential DT for an A potential QB. What's the problem?" For that matter, you could set up that trade to get Urlacher by trading away a couple draft picks that you don't give a shit about and a mid level player. It's just a terrible idea all the way around.

Also, your argument that your trading options are more limited is only semi-accurate. My hope in doing it this way was that these other teams would be picked up along the way...and many have been (at one point, we had 22 owners in this league). Look at Tennessee, Kansas City, Carolina, and Seattle. Those are all teams that were secondary teams that you couldn't trade with when we started. Yes, it would be "more fun" to have access to all 32 teams. But as Yanksfan said, without 32 members, it would just make things harder. You're welcome to recruit people to fill out the league though.

[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']That actually gets into my first comment a little bit. I just think having secondary teams does something weird for league competition. Whether it gives players two chances at the playoffs, limits trades that would otherwise be reasonable, or lets you try to potentially eliminate rivals through your secondary team (not conference ones since you have a procedure for the teams we can pick, but just in general). It probably isn't worse than playing a load of CPU games, but it just seems off to me.[/QUOTE]

I think the system itself has worked very well. It's allowed everyone in here to have a human opponent each week without requiring that much greater of a commitment from them. But even with having people only play the games when their secondary is matched up with a primary team, look at some of the problems we've run into. This is especially apparent for the people who are in both leagues having to schedule 3 games vs 3 different opponents in a 4 day timespan. No offense, but you're not really in a position to comment on that since you've neither taken on a secondary team nor subbed frequently.

[quote name='Dark Rider']EDIT: Wow, I just looked and it looks like I have n8 two weeks in a row. This can't be good. :)[/QUOTE]

Haha...all that really means is that you get to read worthless ramblings from me two weeks in a row, lol. My Madden skills are still nothing special.
 
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About to advance the league. I hate that DVO asked about a sub early on, but since all he needed to do was play the CPU today, he's had plenty of time. Also, Tanabeo doesn't seem to care about his game, so I'm going to boot him until he feels like showing back up again. Don't want the Panthers to be tied up in case they need a sub. Stay tuned!
 
Week 12 Summary

Power Rankings
1. Atlanta Falcons
2. St. Louis Rams
3. Kansas City Chiefs
4. Denver Broncos
5. Arizona Cardinals

Offensive Player of the Week
Steven Jackson - 11 att, 173 yds, 2 TDs

Defensive Player of the Week
Brian Urlacher - 5 tackles, 2 INTs

Week 13 games will be due by 1/23!

EDIT - All right, OP is updated with the new owners of secondary teams. Here's a quick rundown.

Yanksfan - NY Jets (I was reluctant to give away the Jets when it looked like they were going to run away with the division. Since winning a sim against the Pats, they've lost 2 sims though and are now tied with Buffalo)
Blade3D - Miami Dolphins
Dark Rider - Chicago Bears
LVPatriots - Arizona Cardinals (I know you had trouble managing 2 teams before. Please just let us know asap if you ever need a sub for a game)

That just leaves us with the Vikings, and any one of Superstar, Ultimate Matt X, or Matt Young who could take them. As pitfallharry posted, these are the Vikes remaining games that would need to be played:

Vikings: Broncos, Lions, Saints
 
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Hey, Dark Rider, your inbox is full so I can't respond to the PM you sent me. This is what I tried responding with though.

Hey, I'm actually available now if you're around (been up with my daughter all night). Otherwise, I probably won't be able to play until 11-12 EST tonight. If that's too late for you, we can try setting something up for tomorrow.
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[quote name='N3XTLVL']im at work so i cant really read older posts . but i would like to join let me know what to do .[/QUOTE]

Just look over the OP when you get home from work. It's a little confusing explaining which teams are available for you to choose from if you're not looking at the list. The gist is that most people here have two teams so no one gets stuck playing the CPU, but any team that is in all caps is available for a new member to take.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Is silversnake still in the league? If so, what's the best way to reach him? He never answered my PM last time we had a game.[/QUOTE]

I played him last week and was able to reach him through XBL. I may have just gotten lucky, but he seemed very willing to play. His gamertag is Symb1oteSpider.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Hey, Dark Rider, your inbox is full so I can't respond to the PM you sent me. This is what I tried responding with though.[/QUOTE]

Really sorry my PM box was full, it should be good now.

I can't do right now, but I could do tonight at 11pmEST. If that's cool with you, I will be on.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']Weird that ATL passed STL in the power rankings..whatever. Lyric is still the team to beat right now.[/QUOTE]

No no. I'm perfectly fine! Don't want to be No. 1!!!

It must take into account that I only have a one-trick pony.
 
[quote name='lyric706']No no. I'm perfectly fine! Don't want to be No. 1!!!

It must take into account that I only have a one-trick pony.[/QUOTE]

Or, ya know...this.

Formula for Calculating Power Rank

((((sqr(((Points For - Points Against) + ( Strength of Schedule * 2000)) * True Strength of Schedule) + ((Wins - Losses) * 4)) * (Redzone Scoring % / 4) ) + Turnover Differential) - (Losses * 20)) + 500

Points For: Points the team has scored in total
Points Against: Points the team has given up
Strength of Schedule: The strength of the teams schedule of teams they play
True Strength of Schedule: The strength of the teams schedule in combination of the strength of each opponents schedule they play ((2 * Opponents Record) + (Opponents' Opponents Record)) / 3
Wins: Number of wins a team has
Losses: Number of losses a team has
Turnover Differential: The difference in take-aways vs. turnovers
Redzone Scoring %: The percent of times a team scores a TD or FG in the redzone
sqr: Square Root
+: Addition
-: Subtraction
*: Multiplication
/: Division
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']
I think the system itself has worked very well. It's allowed everyone in here to have a human opponent each week without requiring that much greater of a commitment from them. But even with having people only play the games when their secondary is matched up with a primary team, look at some of the problems we've run into. This is especially apparent for the people who are in both leagues having to schedule 3 games vs 3 different opponents in a 4 day timespan. No offense, but you're not really in a position to comment on that since you've neither taken on a secondary team nor subbed frequently.
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I can agree or at least agree to disagree with most of what you said, but I'm going to at least defend myself on the scheduling point. I'm in both leagues, have other gaming things I try to schedule, and have enough going on in my personal life to at least think I'm not ignorant to what it takes to schedule games, for me or anyone else. I may not be the smartest person here, but I'm at least not a fool and can comment on anything I think I can reasonably understand.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Just look over the OP when you get home from work. It's a little confusing explaining which teams are available for you to choose from if you're not looking at the list. The gist is that most people here have two teams so no one gets stuck playing the CPU, but any team that is in all caps is available for a new member to take.[/QUOTE]


sent you a pm id take the eagles since they are in caps
 
I know someone who just got the game and may want to join in on this do yall care if he does he was in the madden 11 league last year
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']So n8, we're on for tonight, correct?

Also, whoever is facing the Bears please pm me.[/QUOTE]

Doing my best, man. I've got to feed/change/get my daughter back to sleep. If you could do maybe 30-45 minutes earlier that would probably help me out. If not, it should be ok. I just don't get a lot of notice myself with these things.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Doing my best, man. I've got to feed/change/get my daughter back to sleep. If you could do maybe 30-45 minutes earlier that would probably help me out. If not, it should be ok. I just don't get a lot of notice myself with these things.[/QUOTE]

That's fine, I understand. I am around all evening so just let me know.
 
Great game n8! I am reaching a point where I am coming so close to coming back an winning games.
Next season after I build my team a little I should be a pretty solid team.
 
Bills - 19
Titans - 8

Really close game. Buffalo was able to control the clock and won the turnover battle (+3), and that really made all the difference. Matt Hasselbeck gifted the Bills with a fumble and an interception in his own end of the field. But the Titans red zone defense held strong most of the game, limiting Buffalo to 4 field goals. A missed 38 yard field goal by Tennessee at the end of the 1st half also hurt them a bit.

Ryan Fitzpatrick played like a worthless piece of garbage, and had it not been for Fred Jackson, I'm sure I would have lost. Bills defense was decent, at least keeping Chris Johnson under control, though they did give up the Titans lone score on a huge pass play thanks to some loose coverage. Dark Rider played well though. This was just one of those "grind it out" kind of wins. He lost because I had the ball more. Nothing more to it than that. GG, Dark Rider.

Bills
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 3-7, 42 yds
Fred Jackson - 23 att, 122 yds
CJ Spiller - 3 att, 14 yds, 1 TD
Dwan Edwards - 3 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF

Titans
Matt Hasselbeck - 9-13, 159 yds, 1 TD, 2 INTs
Chris Johnson - 12 att, 69 yds
Kenny Britt - 3 rec, 107 yds, 1 TD (72 yds)
Barrett Ruud - 5 tackles, 1 sack
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I played him last week and was able to reach him through XBL. I may have just gotten lucky, but he seemed very willing to play. His gamertag is Symb1oteSpider.[/QUOTE]

He made a post a few pages back saying that he couldn't log in to CAG. I also sent him a message through XBL and he answered it pretty quickly.
 
[quote name='Tanabeo']I know someone who just got the game and may want to join in on this do yall care if he does he was in the madden 11 league last year[/QUOTE]

Is he a good fit for this league (ie. not a Madden god)? BTW, are you still in this league? You seem to have had trouble getting your last few games played.
 
i play damailman2272 this week as my first game . im signed in and ready to play . just hit me up . i sent him a message here and on XBL .
 
Nice..there is a good mix of younger and older gamers here I think. I have had a lot of good playing experiences, win or lose. Most important thing is to play with respect for your opponent.

BTW - Falcons v Titans is scheduled for tomorrow morning @ 9 CST.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']Nice..there is a good mix of younger and older gamers here I think. I have had a lot of good playing experiences, win or lose. Most important thing is to play with respect for your opponent.

BTW - Falcons v Titans is scheduled for tomorrow morning @ 9 CST.[/QUOTE]


It is? I didn't schedule a game for tomorrow. In fact, I already played all my games this week.

Whatever probably just a typo. However, if you need a sub, let me know.
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']It is? I didn't schedule a game for tomorrow. In fact, I already played all my games this week.

Whatever probably just a typo. However, if you need a sub, let me know.[/QUOTE]

lol, meant Texans. :D
 
Sorry about that matt, we got hit with a snow storm i just got home and don't plan on going for today so hit me up when you want to get that game going...yet again my bad.
 
Seattle 26 philly 17

passing

jackson 11-25 195 3td 4int

vick/young 12-31 173 0td 3int

rushing

lynch 9att 100yds 1td

mccoy 20att 91yd 1td
young 1att 1yd 1td

recieving top

ahhhhhh xbox frox but smith for phi had 3 recept and s rice had like 2 and one td basically both players spread the ball to like 14 players .
 
og, I've been around the last few hours messaging you on Live and not getting any response. I'll give it a little while longer, but after that I'm going to have to throw in the towel and wait until the evening. I should be back by like 10 est though, but I'd prefer to play soon.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']Nice..there is a good mix of younger and older gamers here I think. I have had a lot of good playing experiences, win or lose. Most important thing is to play with respect for your opponent.

BTW - Falcons v Titans is scheduled for tomorrow morning @ 9 CST.[/QUOTE]


Haha I'm the TEXANS dude!

Edit: sorry didnt see the correction after the post. IM THE IDIOT HERE! Lol
 
[quote name='N3XTLVL']Seattle 26 philly 17

passing

jackson 11-25 195 3td 4int

vick/young 12-31 173 0td 3int

rushing

lynch 9att 100yds 1td

mccoy 20att 91yd 1td
young 1att 1yd 1td

recieving top

ahhhhhh xbox frox but smith for phi had 3 recept and s rice had like 2 and one td basically both players spread the ball to like 14 players .[/QUOTE]

Did Vick get hurt dude?
 
I need someone to sub for Minnesota for this week. It might be fair for Yanksfan to do it since I subbed against him, despite the fact that the records were nowhere close. Also, it's Carolina vs. Tampa this week. Is Tanabeo not Carolina anymore?
 
[quote name='KasterDB']I need someone to sub for Minnesota for this week. It might be fair for Yanksfan to do it since I subbed against him, despite the fact that the records were nowhere close. Also, it's Carolina vs. Tampa this week. Is Tanabeo not Carolina anymore?[/QUOTE]

Let me know if you can't find anyone. I am happy to sub for you/anyone. Although I have already played you twice this week.
 
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