Diablo III / Diablo II Battle.net Thread

I agree. After approx. 200 hours, two level 60 characters, and a lot of fruitless grinding for gear, I think I am done with game.

Nothing against the game itself, I had a lot of fun playing it; however, I've reached the point of repetitiveness where it is just no longer fun for me to play.
 
I can certainly agree with you that the AH completely trivializes 99.9999% of the gear you find. I think I've found a total of two items in my 200+ hours of gameplay that have been worth using. Perhaps the nerf complaints are justified because there's hope that those issues will actually be addressed whereas the AH is unfortunately here to stay. It's too bad because I actually really like how D3 plays but ultimately the problem with the loot causes the game to feel... empty. I can't help but feel like D3 was a beta test for the economy system of Blizzard's next MMO.
 
I agree with Force, I barely play Daiblo now. The AH is totally necessary to progress, the champion packs are stupid and cheap, it's a bitch to find awesome loot or legendaries and the lack of customization is terrible. It was fun at first, but I played Diablo 2 for at least 3 years straight. I played this for a few months. I don't think it's my taste in games that's changed, it's that Diablo 3 isn't what it should be. Thanks Blizzard, you pretty much killed my favorite game series.
 
I'm pretty much done playing too.... I'll get every one to 60 but then that's it.

Force's message really rang out my thoughts... if I have to resort to Blizzard's Ebay.... that's not a game I want to play.

Content is super duper short..... difficulties don't make a game longer and can't be counted as content. What's the record for finishing the game? wasn't it under double digits?

What they need is the blacksmith to manufacture upgrades on items for gold, and they need an endless dungeon that's TRULY randomized.... actually several for each ACT.

I am thinking Torchlight 2 will be far better.
 
[quote name='xycury']I'm pretty much done playing too.... I'll get every one to 60 but then that's it.

Force's message really rang out my thoughts... if I have to resort to Blizzard's Ebay.... that's not a game I want to play.

Content is super duper short..... difficulties don't make a game longer and can't be counted as content. What's the record for finishing the game? wasn't it under double digits?

What they need is the blacksmith to manufacture upgrades on items for gold, and they need an endless dungeon that's TRULY randomized.... actually several for each ACT.

I am thinking Torchlight 2 will be far better.[/QUOTE]

My personal record is 1-60 in 2 hours.

Although the record is 15mins iirc.
 
When it comes down to it, I think I found my problem with the game. It's not about the content but more so how the level grind happens.

Like I get they want you to use the AH, but every time I try to find pieces of gear for gold it's either shitty or retard expensive for something that isn't that good. That is if they even have gear. I feel like there isn't enough gear to even buy from with the stats you want on the AH, and every piece I seem to be getting on inferno is of shitty quality. I also refuse to buy items with the RMA. It's like grind until you get that retard good piece then sell that to better your character.

That really doesn't interest me but hey I will keep playing to hopefully make a buck or two off the RMA.
 
In Sir_Fragalot's case, I think Blizz needs to implement some way to keep the shitty items from appearing on the AH, like list fee (and don't bring up the bullshit about eBay doing it right; they're current system is so FAR in favor of the buyer it's not funny).

The major problem is that anyone can put up anything for any price. What would really help is something like cap per level. Like a level 58, you can list for a maximum of 200-500k and lvl 60s you can list for a max of 50 million. I'm not saying to implement what I'm suggesting; just something that deters people from putting up junk nobody wants.
 
junk nobody wants is relative.

granted if someone puts up trash (white) and tags it 200 gp > 100k, that's just stupid but it's more wasteful that the player who did it is using up their own limited AH slots. some ppl can't afford the high end stuff so they buy the lower end drops. though many times even those have prices on them that seem unreasonable, a lot of the times it's not...and a small upgrade to some players. if they restricted what could go on the AH, that would just cause more problems. ppl will pay for something based on supply and demand. if the price is too high for you or not what you think it's worth, mutter something and keep looking.
 
"We recognize that the item hunt is just not enough for a long-term sustainable end-game. There are still tons of people playing every day and week, and playing a lot, but eventually they're going to run out of stuff to do (if they haven't already)."
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http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mi...nt-just-not-enough-for-a-sustainable-end-game

Well, at least they realize that the current "grind Act One and Three to death only to get dogshit items" end-game is boring as hell and isn't working. Now the question becomes how long until they fix it. Clearly its going to be a while.
 
[quote name='dualedge2']In Sir_Fragalot's case, I think Blizz needs to implement some way to keep the shitty items from appearing on the AH, like list fee (and don't bring up the bullshit about eBay doing it right; they're current system is so FAR in favor of the buyer it's not funny).

The major problem is that anyone can put up anything for any price. What would really help is something like cap per level. Like a level 58, you can list for a maximum of 200-500k and lvl 60s you can list for a max of 50 million. I'm not saying to implement what I'm suggesting; just something that deters people from putting up junk nobody wants.[/QUOTE]
That would drive all the good items straight to private sales. It's bad enough the RMAH siphons priceless items already.[quote name='SEH']http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mi...nt-just-not-enough-for-a-sustainable-end-game

Well, at least they realize that the current "grind Act One and Three to death only to get dogshit items" end-game is boring as hell and isn't working. Now the question becomes how long until they fix it. Clearly its going to be a while.[/QUOTE]
A big step would be making the harder acts more rewarding with a higher chance to drop legendaries and getting rid of certain retarded item affixes. Can't tell you how sick I got of friends farming act one or two linking me good items worth millions all the while I was getting fucking 58 legendaries worth jack shit in act three. That kind of bullshit has no business even being in the game.
 
[quote name='Jodou']That would drive all the good items straight to private sales. It's bad enough the RMAH siphons priceless items already.

A big step would be making the harder acts more rewarding with a higher chance to drop legendaries and getting rid of certain retarded item affixes. Can't tell you how sick I got of friends farming act one or two linking me good items worth millions all the while I was getting fucking 58 legendaries worth jack shit in act three. That kind of bullshit has no business even being in the game.[/QUOTE]

God, if the main way to do deals was private sales, I'd probably shoot myself. The tards on JSP would have even more of a field day. They already try to sell anything with any type of crit on it for 99 billion gold, if there was no AH the prices would skyrocket.

fuck a higher chance to drop legendaries. There are like four legendary items worth a damn, the rest are all pure trash. Just make all the packs guaranteed to drop an ilvl 62-63 item. Its pretty fucking annoying to kill an arcane/molten/desecrater/plagued/waller/jailer pack in Act Three only to get two ilvl 54 rares. There is no reason for that shit to EVER drop in Inferno, let alone Act Three off a champion/elite pack.
 
if you had a higher % of drops that had better affixes, ppl would be able to reach end game quicker...and make the end game...game end quicker. that's the opposite of what blizz is trying to do. they want to stretch out the gameplay as long as possible to milk the RMAH and hopefully wave the carrot infront of everyone long enough to keep the grind going.

if every other rare was the best rare in the game, "rare" items wouldn't worth anything to you or the AH. If everyone had CE wings, it wouldn't be special it would just be annoying.

we get filler drops just to make the great drops more rewarding. annoying as it may seem, it's all part of the design. we also probably play a lot more than the casual D3 player so we're noticing these issues more and it's bothersome.
 
Ok, I am still playing on my guest pass since I didn't fight the skeleton king yet.

I created a new character (Billy witchdoctor) and after the last couple of patches, I can say I found 2x as many magic items and they are the same or better quality as I had found before.

I decided to try the game again since I found it boring the first time I tried it. IDK. It just doesn't feel like diablo to me.
 
[quote name='100xp']We get filler drops just to make the great drops more rewarding. [/QUOTE]

What great drops? I've logged 200+ hours and everything is shit.

Also, nobody said increase the stats on items, affixes were mentioned in relation to the mobs. Like I said, there is zero reason an ilvl 54 item should drop off a mob with eight different bullshit affixes. Guaranteeing an ilvl 62-63 item off an Act Three or Four mob with five NV stacks doesnt make anything easier. In most cases the stats would still be awful, but at least you'd feel a bit better about killing an annoying pack.
 
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fuck a higher chance to drop legendaries. There are like four legendary items worth a damn, the rest are all pure trash. Just make all the packs guaranteed to drop an ilvl 62-63 item. Its pretty fucking annoying to kill an arcane/molten/desecrater/plagued/waller/jailer pack in Act Three only to get two ilvl 54 rares. There is no reason for that shit to EVER drop in Inferno, let alone Act Three off a champion/elite pack.[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree. I think this is the main problem. There is not enough ilvl 61+ gear going out. I mean who the fuck is going to buy a ilvl 58 item when 60 is two levels away. It's pointless and not worth any of our time.

I also noticed that in the gold AH, anytime someone gets something with +100 or more of one stat, it instantly goes 200k on a low end and 1+mil on a high end no matter how shitty it is.

So they will put up a 350 armor shoulder, with +100 dex, +40 int, +10 cold resist, +5 resist all for 750k.
 
[quote name='SEH']What great drops? I've logged 200+ hours and everything is shit.

Also, nobody said increase the stats on items, affixes were mentioned in relation to the mobs. Like I said, there is zero reason an ilvl 54 item should drop off a mob with eight different bullshit affixes. Guaranteeing an ilvl 62-63 item off an Act Three or Four mob with five NV stacks doesnt make anything easier. In most cases the stats would still be awful, but at least you'd feel a bit better about killing an annoying pack.[/QUOTE]

the lvl 54 drop is basically loot for your lower level alts or vendor trash that will eventually add up so you can combine gems.

as for increase the stats on items, i was commenting on what we consider useless or less favorable affixes to items being nix'd completely.

I've logged 200+ hours as well and I've found some great items...my friends and I actively share equipment, anything we cant use goes to the vendor, alts, or AH. I'd say every 2-3 act 1 runs I'll find something to upgrade between my 3 lvl 60's, the gold that comes with doing a run, and usually 1-2 items for my friends to upgrade. Act farming has been challenging but not impossible, it's just act 1 is more efficient and I can do that with my buds.

no doubt there's a lot of things that needs to be addressed in D3's loot but some of us are having better/worse luck on drops than others.
 
Haven't even started to farm yet and I just spent like 400k gold today (just really logged on to check AH) :lol:. Max Leveled JC and Blacksmithing.

Also bought a glove for my monk for 250k.

474 Armor
172 Dex
27 Int
82 Vit
43 Lightening Resist (The resist I am stacking)
18 Resist All
204 Armor

Not the best but I will take the added 700 dps I am getting from it :cool:. Will farm later in hopes of something :lol:.
 
I actually did buy a dye once from the merchant just because my character looked awful in blue and green armor.
 
Put up the cloak I found the other day in the gold AH. Put a min of 15 mil. Threw in a trio of +42 dex gems to make it around 270 dex, 150 vit, 30 res all, and 20% gold find. Nothing really like it on the AH so I guess we will see...
 
[quote name='100xp']junk nobody wants is relative.

granted if someone puts up trash (white) and tags it 200 gp > 100k, that's just stupid but it's more wasteful that the player who did it is using up their own limited AH slots. some ppl can't afford the high end stuff so they buy the lower end drops. though many times even those have prices on them that seem unreasonable, a lot of the times it's not...and a small upgrade to some players. if they restricted what could go on the AH, that would just cause more problems. ppl will pay for something based on supply and demand. if the price is too high for you or not what you think it's worth, mutter something and keep looking.[/QUOTE]


Str and Int being the only things on an item that is ilvl 60+ isn't exactly relative. That IS junk. And then someone putting it up for 1 million+.

In any case, how about you stop picking apart ideas and come with your own? Then we can all tear apart your ideas.

How about actually getting rid of the gold farm bots that keep spamming Trade chat? It'd be nice to see what anyone's selling.
 
How much gold farming did everyone have to do pre-inferno? I've got pretty shitty gear and am having a lot of trouble in Inferno Act 1. I can get up to the Butcher alright, but he can one-shot me. I've found NO decent gear for my DH. What I do have has came from the gold AH, and still isnt very good. Right now I'm trying to get high crit chance and crit dmg, but I cant afford anything really. I feel like I'm going to have to spend days farming gold just to get enough to buy one ok-ish piece of equipment.
 
[quote name='Waughoo']How much gold farming did everyone have to do pre-inferno? I've got pretty shitty gear and am having a lot of trouble in Inferno Act 1. I can get up to the Butcher alright, but he can one-shot me. I've found NO decent gear for my DH. What I do have has came from the gold AH, and still isnt very good. Right now I'm trying to get high crit chance and crit dmg, but I cant afford anything really. I feel like I'm going to have to spend days farming gold just to get enough to buy one ok-ish piece of equipment.[/QUOTE]

I personally did not have to farm until ACT II Inferno. The difficulty jump between ACT I and ACT II is still brutal.

I did however have to rethink my build and start working on getting more resists, vit, and armor.
 
Just keep farming Waughoo. I was in that situation, but then i got lucky by finding a weapon that sold for 14 million. Today i sold pair of boots for 5 million. Act I inferno can drop these items, but you have to farm smart. Magic find definitely helps.
 
[quote name='SEH']There is no reason for that shit to EVER drop in Inferno, let alone Act Three off a champion/elite pack.[/QUOTE]
That was pretty much part of what I was saying because my legendaries would be level 58 out of act three, which is just insulting. But if I had taken the easy path in act two, I could be getting blackthorne's medals or skullgrasps with my friends.

That's was one of the straws that broke the camel's back.
 
I didn't have to gold farm or rely on the auction house for my gear outside of a couple weapons and even then i try to only half a million. I know that being that fortunate of a player is a very small percentage of this game's population. All you can do is just keep farming spots that you can handle champs at and have a friends around to keep things from getting lonely and hopefully that sweat shop like gameplay will pay off.
 
[quote name='dualedge2']Str and Int being the only things on an item that is ilvl 60+ isn't exactly relative. That IS junk. And then someone putting it up for 1 million+.

In any case, how about you stop picking apart ideas and come with your own? Then we can all tear apart your ideas.

How about actually getting rid of the gold farm bots that keep spamming Trade chat? It'd be nice to see what anyone's selling.[/QUOTE]

personally the channels are a different issue all together, if someone has a legit item for trade that no one wants and spams the trade channel it's just as annoying as a farm bot spamming their URL. If someone wants to use one of their 10 auction slots to put up a crap item, it's on them. Look at ebay, there's a ton of uselss crap on that thing too but someone still managed to sell an empty box or reptile DLC skin code for $120.

I wish I could get rid of all the farm bots, but I can't...or I would.

I always try to be positive, if I came off as negative it's not my intent.

i think that part of thing we dont understand about drops is, in inferno act 3 and 4 you start to get drops that are above your level. you cant use it but it's possible you can hold it or sell it. in inferno, you can get drops that are under level and seem like trade even though they're rare and/or sell for a few thousand gold. no place of it in act 3...then it would also seem that non magical gear has no place in inferno period but it still drops, along w/damaged items.

the drops can suck, or they can be great. d3 is like fishing, you can have all the best gear to find better gear and still come up short...and some kid happens to get a single drop off of trash his first go and sells it for 20 million.
 
Finished Act I today. No troubles at all, except for the one part where I had two elite mobs spawn at once on me. Gonna keep farming Act I for some better gear though because I would like better gear for Act II and beyond.
 
Here's a summary of my day - I go to log in and realize I left my phone at work. fuck

Guess it's time to finish a book tonight instead....damn it.
 
figured since i was bored of farming I would start my 2nd character. 40 mins later, I started my 3rd character.... 5 hours later I have a lvl 28 Demon Hunter.
 
Me and a friend went through Act I Inferno up to the Skeleton King last night. Took us awhile because there was a lot of those "Oh hold on BRB" moments. But, I came out like +100K gold, so thats not bad I guess. I think thats what I'm going to farm for now, because it's more fun than fighting Azmodan over and over, and I have the slight chance of finding something useful.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']figured since i was bored of farming I would start my 2nd character. 40 mins later, I started my 3rd character.... 5 hours later I have a lvl 28 Demon Hunter.[/QUOTE]

I've realized I'm addicted to alts. I've got a lvl 52 witch doctor, lvl 31 wizard and a lvl 27 Barbarian. Still plan on starting a monk and DH.
 
[quote name='bhk']I've realized I'm addicted to alts. I've got a lvl 52 witch doctor, lvl 31 wizard and a lvl 27 Barbarian. Still plan on starting a monk and DH.[/QUOTE]

Hehe! Still haven't decided my main so I still play all 5 class times alternately. Im at the start of act 3 nightmare. All of them are at lvl 43. The good thing I can think of is that I don't get bored even if I repeat the acts because it feels different each time I play it. Also I can share loots with all of them so if I find a garbage for my barbarian, I know it will be a treasure for my demon hunter and so on. Plus as time progresses items in the AH for low level gear gets cheaper so I tend to get nice equip stats for cheap making runs in each act faster. If only I had more play time like most of you guys have. I only average like an hour and a half every other night.
 
funny...part of the addiciton to alts seems to be, outfitting them in the gear you found but don't really want to sell on the AH.

I did Act ii last night w/the DH...and I gotta say, I noticed I got a lot of lvl 54-58 drops from packs...and I went from chapter 1 > Belial. I maybe unearthed 3 upgrades for 2 different alts and a buddy, otherwise it seemed more like a gp run.
 
I have never been a big PC gamer outside of MMOs mainly due to having an older computer. According to canyourunit my new computer can run D3. If I read correctly you still need a guest pass to try the starter edition, is that the case? I would definitely like to try the game out if at all possible before I buy it. I only played D2 for like 30 minutes at a friends house and that is my only exposure to Diablo.
 
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Found this today. Any ideas on what it's gonna sell for?
 
Well thats good. That'll double my gold if it'll sell. I also found a 2 hand crossbow with over 1k dmg on it. That might sell too.
 
[quote name='Waughoo']Well thats good. That'll double my gold if it'll sell. I also found a 2 hand crossbow with over 1k dmg on it. That might sell too.[/QUOTE]

just set the B/O higher in the event someone really likes the stats on the amulet. the set amulets tend to go for more.
 
Is dual wielding doable for a barb in Inferno? I've been playing sword and board with no trouble in act 2 but I found a pretty sweet IAS dagger with life on hit and I was wondering if another similar weapon in my other hand would be alright.
 
Threw a 900 dmg crossbow up on the RMAH I just found for $50. Had 230 Dex, 120 vit, and %73 crit dmg - lowest i saw was $75 so hoping to cash in on that =]
 
[quote name='n4styn4t3']Even Acts 3/4?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and for very cheap if you use a double tornado spec. Just don't expect to kill things efficiently or quickly, but you will never die with enough LoH. I personally don't like it because of the reliance on having plenty of mobs to leech from and once the numbers die down it can be a strain to finish off elites with descrate/arcane and shielding.
 
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