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Doomstink said:
Every deal we sign has the same terms. Wonder Boy and Bard's Gold, for example, were signed with identical revenue shares and splits. We don't play favorites and we make significantly less on the smaller runs contrary to what you're suggesting.
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I'm not suggesting anything about what you make, just that it's no doubt easier to get deals with these tiny games nobody has ever heard of. Pretty much every time I see a new release in an email or the title of this thread I have to google it to see what it even is, and it's not like I don't pay attention to what's coming out.

So, yeah, I'll buy Wonder Boy and (if it comes out before it becomes a PS+ freebie) Salt and Sanctuary, but everything else in the announced games I've either never heard of or have no interest in. Mostly the former.

 
I've never bought anything from LRG before - will it be nearly impossible to get the CE of Lawbreakers this Friday? Don't want to waste my time if is going to be gone in 2 seconds. Thanks in advance.

(Not looking for opinions on Lawbreakers. The beta sold me on it. I love it. Just curious about LRG ordering.)

 
Larry Davis said:
I'm not suggesting anything about what you make, just that it's no doubt easier to get deals with these tiny games nobody has ever heard of. Pretty much every time I see a new release in an email or the title of this thread I have to google it to see what it even is, and it's not like I don't pay attention to what's coming out.

So, yeah, I'll buy Wonder Boy and (if it comes out before it becomes a PS+ freebie) Salt and Sanctuary, but everything else in the announced games I've either never heard of or have no interest in. Mostly the former.
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Exactly how I feel about LRG (said in a somewhat tactless fashion). I only know of LRG's existence because I googled if there was a physical release of salt and sanctuary planned. Looked at the list of past LRG games and the only one I would have purchased was Firewatch... MAYBE oddworld. Have to google the games every time I get a new release email.

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buddha_mjs said:
Exactly how I feel about LRG (said in a somewhat tactless fashion). I only know of LRG's existence because I googled if there was a physical release of salt and sanctuary planned. Looked at the list of past LRG games and the only one I would have purchased was Firewatch... MAYBE oddworld. Have to google the games every time I get a new release email.

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Really? You had to Google Risk of Rain, Broken Age, Jotun, Oxenfree, Shantae, Shadow Complex, Dear Ester, etc...I mean these are literally some of the biggest indie games ever published. If you guys really believe that most LRG are super obscure, you either don't buy many indie games or you just don't pay attention because the games LRG releases are well discussed on numerous forums, news sites and in the handful of print magazines that still get published in the US and UK.

 
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blinknot4 said:
I've never bought anything from LRG before - will it be nearly impossible to get the CE of Lawbreakers this Friday? Don't want to waste my time if is going to be gone in 2 seconds. Thanks in advance.

(Not looking for opinions on Lawbreakers. The beta sold me on it. I love it. Just curious about LRG ordering.)
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Hard to say. A lot of the LRG regulars claim not to be interested because of the online only aspect, but I suspect many will buy it anyway given the small print run and association with the LRG brand. I would suggest getting there right when sales go live.

 
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bojay1997 said:
Really? You had to Google Risk of Rain, Broken Age, Jotun, Oxenfree, Shantae, Shadow Complex, Dear Ester, etc...I mean these are literally some of the biggest indie games ever published. If you guys really believe that most LRG are super obscure, you either don't buy many indie games or you just don't pay attention because the games LRG releases are well discussed on numerous forums, news sites and in the handful of print magazines that still get published in the US and UK.
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It is important to note that many of us that go to LRG games to buy physical games, do not buy/play very many digital games (whether indie or not) The only one that I ever tried on that list when it was a digital game and knew about before the LRG release was Shadow Complex, because I saw my brother-in-law playing and wanted to try it myself back when it was an XB360 digital exclusive. Everything else that LRG has announced/sold, I research when I hear about it and try to buy it if it looks like something I would like. Oxenfree is the only one on that list that I managed to miss even though I was really interested. Looking forward to CSH, as that looks like it will be good.

 
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blinknot4 said:
I've never bought anything from LRG before - will it be nearly impossible to get the CE of Lawbreakers this Friday? Don't want to waste my time if is going to be gone in 2 seconds. Thanks in advance.

(Not looking for opinions on Lawbreakers. The beta sold me on it. I love it. Just curious about LRG ordering.)
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I'm wondering about the shipping as well. Want to play Lawbreakers on release day!
 
bojay1997 said:
Hard to say. A lot of the LRG regulars claim not to be interested because of the online only aspect, but I suspect many will buy it anyway given the small print run and association with the LRG brand. I would suggest getting there right when sales go live.
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I agree, that this will be hard to say, due to the variables involved. There's 2500 of the CE correct?

Even though this is one of LRG more higher profile titles, It is also a physical release, of an all digital game, so I personally don't see the point of it really. If I honestly had to place a bet, I would say these are going to last awhile, especially the standard version.

And I guess depending on how how badly someone want's the CE extra's, will decide how high the level of interest is for that one. As your only real tangible purchase is for those extra's, since the disc will be dead at some point in the future.

I guess it could sell out quick if many buyers just see it as some rare item, but I can't see where the demand will be down the road. Is the game out yet? Are the reviews really good? Then I guess this could go fast, but I personally don't see the "want" of this title, but I'll also admit I know very little about this title in general, or how much interest there may be.

 
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bojay1997 said:
Really? You had to Google Risk of Rain, Broken Age, Jotun, Oxenfree, Shantae, Shadow Complex, Dear Ester, etc...I mean these are literally some of the biggest indie games ever published. If you guys really believe that most LRG are super obscure, you either don't buy many indie games or you just don't pay attention because the games LRG releases are well discussed on numerous forums, news sites and in the handful of print magazines that still get published in the US and UK.
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Nah, I know those. But looking at the most recent releases, I didn't recognize at least half of them: Plague Road, Oceanhorn, Neurovoider, Drive Drive Drive, Bard's Gold, Deemo. It's been more of a problem lately, and the list of upcoming games without dates is full of similarly obscure stuff. Croixleur Sigma? Dragon Fantasy: Volumes of Westeria? YIIK, Fault Milestone One, World End Economica, and Narcissu?

I'm not saying any of them are bad, because I have literally no idea what any of them are (the especially absurd-sounding ones I'm guessing are visual novels), and in most cases they would likely just disappear into the ether. I also understand why for niche audiences they would like a physical copy -- I bought New N Tasty because I really like Oddworld, and The Silver Case because I really like Suda 51.

 
Lawbreakers is a blast, i played the beta and really enjoyed it. I am a big fan of Arena/Ego shooters and will definitely pick it up.

The Physical copy is a great thing for those of us that want to play it. We can buy a physical copy and then sell it later on when we are finished with it. If we buy it digital, we cant get any of that money back. 

 
Larry Davis said:
Nah, I know those. But looking at the most recent releases, I didn't recognize at least half of them: Plague Road, Oceanhorn, Neurovoider, Drive Drive Drive, Bard's Gold, Deemo. It's been more of a problem lately, and the list of upcoming games without dates is full of similarly obscure stuff. Croixleur Sigma? Dragon Fantasy: Volumes of Westeria? YIIK, Fault Milestone One, World End Economica, and Narcissu?

I'm not saying any of them are bad, because I have literally no idea what any of them are (the especially absurd-sounding ones I'm guessing are visual novels), and in most cases they would likely just disappear into the ether. I also understand why for niche audiences they would like a physical copy -- I bought New N Tasty because I really like Oddworld, and The Silver Case because I really like Suda 51.
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I'm with you- I was aware of some LRG titles but most of them were games that receive a lot of press and/or very good reviews (Firewatch, Shadow Complex, the Shantaes, S&S, CSM) but there's tons of indie stuff out there and I never even heard of until LRG announced it as release.

 
z24buddy said:
It is important to note that many of us that go to LRG games to buy physical games, do not buy/play very many digital games (whether indie or not) The only one that I ever tried on that list when it was a digital game and knew about before the LRG release was Shadow Complex, because I saw my brother-in-law playing and wanted to try it myself back when it was an XB360 digital exclusive. Everything else that LRG has announced/sold, I research when I hear about it and try to buy it if it looks like something I would like. Oxenfree is the only one on that list that I managed to miss even though I was really interested. Looking forward to CSH, as that looks like it will be good.
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Fair enough, but even "mainstream" magazines like Game Informer have reviews of the games LRG is releasing when they come out digitally on a regular basis. Edge which is a UK based magazine that is more industry focused often does multi page articles on prominent indie releases. Similarly, if you spend any time on the bigger news sites like Joystiq, Kotaku, etc...they regularly talk about the bigger indie titles at least a few times before they are released digitally. I mean if you don't really pay much attention to indie releases in general, I could understand not being aware of a lot of LRG's releases, but they aren't exactly super niche indie games with a few exceptions.

 
Definitely getting Wonderboy, but Lawbreakers is awfully tempting as well. I wish I could have played the beta though because I am not sure if I will enjoy it or not. 

 
bojay1997 said:
Really? You had to Google Risk of Rain, Broken Age, Jotun, Oxenfree, Shantae, Shadow Complex, Dear Ester, etc...I mean these are literally some of the biggest indie games ever published. If you guys really believe that most LRG are super obscure, you either don't buy many indie games or you just don't pay attention because the games LRG releases are well discussed on numerous forums, news sites and in the handful of print magazines that still get published in the US and UK.
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Most people don't know about any of those games yes. Indie games are small with a rare few hitting a million most are happy with a few thousand sales. Also bring up say broken age on a gaming forum the first thing you'll get is "lol indie shit". This site is different in that it likes indies and a part of the reason is because that's all LRG makes physical copies of.

(None of this is to say indies are bad)
 
mrliquid said:
Lawbreakers is a blast, i played the beta and really enjoyed it. I am a big fan of Arena/Ego shooters and will definitely pick it up.

The Physical copy is a great thing for those of us that want to play it. We can buy a physical copy and then sell it later on when we are finished with it. If we buy it digital, we cant get any of that money back.
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That is actually a really great point.

 
Indie games being unknown is one of the big issues of being an indie developer. Discoverability is always a challenge, quite a bit more so with today's crowded digital marketplaces. This is actually a big part of why so many indie developers have been knocking on LRG's door lately. A service like LRG is technically another avenue for public promotion of an indie title. Thanks to the existing fanbase and consumers of LRG titles, any game that is released by LRG is automatically going to get additional attention. Even if the consumers don't decide to buy the title, they will still look it up to learn about it before making a purchasing decision. A LRG release of an indie title inherently increases the exposure for a lesser-known title. Some indie developers might want to get their games released by LRG just to get a boost in public awareness.

Once more indie developers get clued into this possibility, LRG is essentially going to be able to sign about any indie title they want. (and possibly even a few titles from larger publishers) Eventually, there will be a real temptation to start picking sure hits from well-known indie titles. I, for one, hope that we continue to get a few more obscure titles thrown into the mix. I like being surprised by some of the offerings, and seeing new games that I may not have heard of.

 
Richard Kain said:
I like being surprised by some of the offerings, and seeing new games that I may not have heard of.
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Yeah, I love some of these not so well known titles as well, as I may not have found or played a few of them otherwise.

Yeah, a lot of people here need to remember that most big publishers can put out their own games(and many just don't want or care to), so just by the nature of what LRG is doing, they aren't always going to have the biggest titles, and that's very much OK(at least for me).

Even some of the bigger known indie titles are getting done by their creators(Shovel Knight, RCR, etc), so even still, more lesser known titles are just a part of what LRG is helping to bring exposure to, as well as keeping games around by offering them as physical. I'm as happy to get a full retail Darius release, as much as I am for a mobile title like Aqua Kitty.

 
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Allegedly Lawbreakers CE comes with the physical disc and a digital code.  So even if you sell the game, you still have a digital copy.

No word on whether or not the SE comes with a code.  I assume not.

 
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reaperztoll said:
Wonder Boy this Friday, I can see this being a 2 minute sellout. Anybody else planning on grabbing the CE?
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I will.

And on the topic of indies, yeah, no shit they love getting deals with LRG. Look at a lot of the people in this thread, they'll buy anything if it's perceived as rare/valuable. Of course they'd jump at virtually guaranteed sales, instead of languishing in the morass of Steam New Releases. I never said I don't understand why they do it.

 
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ignition365 said:
Allegedly Lawbreakers CE comes with the physical disc and a digital code. So even if you sell the game, you still have a digital copy.

No word on whether or not the SE comes with a code. I assume not.
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Under the FAQ of the LRG site it says games take 2 weeks to ship is that true? Anyone here confirm that time frame?
 
I stopped buying collector's editions of all games years ago after a personal epiphany.

But if I was going to buy any collector's edition, it would be the WB one.

Hopefully people scrambling over those will make the standard edition easy pickings for the first few minutes.

 
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falsedichotomies said:
I stopped buying collector's editions of all games years ago after a personal epiphany.

But if I was going to buy any collector's edition, it would be the WB one.

Hopefully people scrambling over those will make the standard edition easy pickings for the first few minutes.
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I'm in a very similar boat, I have been stopping myself from buying CEs of almost all games but I really dig the Wonderboy one.

 
kelo360 said:
Under the FAQ of the LRG site it says games take 2 weeks to ship is that true? Anyone here confirm that time frame?
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Unless held up by manufacturing delays, they give themselves a 2 week window in which to ship the games out from date of sale. some of them have shipped quickly, and others have taken the full time or longer (most recently was held up due to the trading cards they were awaiting to be packaged in).

If your looking for release day play, then this isnt the way to go for the game.

 
kelo360 said:
I'm wondering about the shipping as well. Want to play Lawbreakers on release day!
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If you buy the CE, you'll get a digital code through email for the game to play it on release day (the physical CE will ship as soon as manufacturing wraps).

It was critical that we had a way for fans to play this on release day - don't worry. :)
 
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Doomstink said:
If you buy the CE, you'll get a digital code through email for the game to play it on release day (the physical CE will ship as soon as manufacturing wraps).

It was critical that we had a way for fans to play this on release day - don't worry. :)
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Wait, so does that mean people who don't get the CE will be boned until the game arrives? @_@

 
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Doomstink said:
If you buy the CE, you'll get a digital code through email for the game to play it on release day (the physical CE will ship as soon as manufacturing wraps).

It was critical that we had a way for fans to play this on release day - don't worry. :)
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Damnit, would've went for this had I known. Already preordered on digital. Oh well. This game really surprised me, I don't like arena shooters, but this is probably going to be my new favorite game. I played way more of the beta than I thought I would, everything about it is satisfying and fun. Can't wait for the release.
 
reaperztoll said:
Wonder Boy this Friday, I can see this being a 2 minute sellout. Anybody else planning on grabbing the CE?
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I am debating on it. Definitely going to get the game, but the CE being $70 after shipping is a bit steep so I may just stick with the standard edition. Trying to save money for my wedding next year and my soon to be wife will not be thrilled if I spend $70 on yet another CE.

 
trunks982 said:
u boys think Wonder Boy CE worth the extra $35 just for cards, soundtrack, and a poster?
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They generally charge $15 for a soundtrack (single-disc soundtrack, not sure what double disc soundtracks they've had if any) so that means it's $20 for cards and poster. That does seem like too bad of a deal honestly. But I'd rather it was something else instead of a folded poster. I remember folded posters from the NES/SNES days... they never looked nice with all the creases all over them and they ended up getting ripped on the folds.

 
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Sigma said:
I am debating on it. Definitely going to get the game, but the CE being $70 after shipping is a bit steep so I may just stick with the standard edition. Trying to save money for my wedding next year and my soon to be wife will not be thrilled if I spend $70 on yet another CE.
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I've been debating the CE

Vinny said:
They generally charge $15 for a soundtrack (single-disc soundtrack, not sure what double disc soundtracks they've had if any) so that means it's $20 for cards and poster. That does seem like too bad of a deal honestly. But I'd rather it was something else instead of a folded poster. I remember folded posters from the NES/SNES days... they never looked nice with all the creases all over them and they ended up getting ripped on the folds.
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I think you nailed it. I was debating between the standard and CE too, mainly for the poster, but the fact that it's folded really sucks. I usually frame posters for display, and the creases make any poster look pretty bad. I understand the need to fold the poster instead of shipping it in a separate tube or really thin/long box with the rest of the items, but it makes a difference to me.

 
HaloGX said:
I've been debating the CE

I think you nailed it. I was debating between the standard and CE too, mainly for the poster, but the fact that it's folded really sucks. I usually frame posters for display, and the creases make any poster look pretty bad. I understand the need to fold the poster instead of shipping it in a separate tube or really thin/long box with the rest of the items, but it makes a difference to me.
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Depending on the color of the poster, and where the creases are, it can be OK once framed. But I agree, that any serious collector of posters, would rather have it rolled and shipped in a tube to maintain the proper look.

Is there any chance that the poster would be offered separately, as I would rather buy that on it's own, and get it shipped properly? I would even pay extra to have that option for the CE, but I'm sure that would cause many logistical issues, but maybe something for LRG to consider down the road if and when any more posters are offered.

I know for most who will probably never open this collection, it's a non issue either way, but having an option to get this, or any other posters sent properly would be awesome. As I would gladly pay to have that be an option.

 
Folded posters are worthless.  I'm not 10 years old anymore.  Any legitimate poster comes rolled up in a tube.   Even the freebies they hand out at Gamestop come flat or rolled. 

That being said Wonder Boy looks pretty good.  I will buy 2x of the standard version.  The Sega Master System box art looks very cool. 

 
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Folded posters are a drag. Understand it is out of necessity in this situation, in order to fit it into the game case/box. But as someone who collects and frames/displays theatrical quality 27X40 movie posters, I couldn't bear the thought of displaying a folded one, for the reasons everyone else mentioned. I wonder if in the future it would be possible to provide a small rolled poster, like 11x14 or something. I guess that would just increase the shipping fees, though. 

 
I know this probably seems stupid to many but the large boxes we do for the CEs with special printing techniques cost quite a bit to produce. They're arguably the most expensive part of our CEs.

Please consider them as a part of the CE since it's likely the box that you'll end up displaying on your shelf. If you assess the value of the CE without considering the outer box, you're basically incentivizing us to cut costs there and go with cheaper, less striking, options. You're pretty much telling us that you don't see any value in a premium box and would rather pay less and have us compromise there.

I think that's silly because the box will be on display more than any other component - it should be the best it can be. It can't be if people don't see it as a valuable part of a CE.

Noted on the posters, but unless you want something tiny, there just isn't another feasible way to include one in the package. I don't know about you guys but I *hate* it when CEs have components that don't fit in the box. I have no idea where to put the medallion from my Ultra Despair Girls CE. It just floats around my Vita shelf.
 
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