Steam Deals Thread V13 ~ Star Wars Empire at War $6.80 | The Legend of Korra $10.04 | Red Faction Guerrilla $2.99 |

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Summer sale has come and gone; welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V13!
 
Stop: Before you go any further be sure you are using Enhanced Steam. It will save you a lot of time and embarrassment in the future.
 
Daily Deal
Star Wars: Empire at War Gold Edition - $19.99 $6.80

 
Yesterday's Deal

N/A

Midweek Madness
The Legend of Korra - $14.99 $10.04

Red Faction - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction II - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction Armageddon - $19.99 $2.99
Red Faction Guerrilla - $19.99 $2.99 
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!

 
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warreni said:
Well, he's not a system-builder (and frankly, neither am I at this point: I haven't put a computer together in 15-odd years), so will he be able to get away with something in the $500-600 price range or is he looking at more along the lines of $900-$1,000?

What about this?
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Getting close. I'm running a 4690K in my current build (though in Newegg's overview it says 4670K, which is still fine). The R7 240 is still on the low end, however. Here's Anandtech's benchmarks of the R7 250.

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warreni said:
I don't know exactly what his budget would be, but I figured I could give him a range of potential options.
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Figure out his budget within a reasonable range and work from there. Most of the build is easy to figure out cost-wise. The only variables would be if you want to use an SSD at all and then allocating the remaining funds to the GPU.
 
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warreni said:
Well, he's not a system-builder (and frankly, neither am I at this point: I haven't put a computer together in 15-odd years), so will he be able to get away with something in the $500-600 price range or is he looking at more along the lines of $900-$1,000?

What about this?



He might share your opinion, but he can't even get it to run properly on his computer now. (He bought it the week it came out, because he's a huge Civ fan.)


I don't know exactly what his budget would be, but I figured I could give him a range of potential options. He really has even less of a clue than I do about hardware (I actually used to know a lot about it in the days of my callow youth).
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No no no! What are they thinking? It's an H81 motherboard with a 4690k CPU. Completely overkill. The CPU is in there to make you think "Wow this is great! Does it got good graphics?!".

I smell a project. Seriously, I built for the first home in the summer and it was like Lego. It's surprisingly fun and not all that hard so long as you take proper advice. Don't be afraid to pop by the "Build A PC" thread (at least four of us read it!) and get some pointers.

I started by going on PCPartPicker and just throwing things together. After a while you get an idea of what fits together.

Also, www.logicalincrements.com is a good starting point. It gives you an idea of what to aim for based on your budget.

PC part buying is what happens when the thrill of hunting down Steam deals dissipates.

Have fun!

:whee:
 
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Neuro5i5 said:
Getting close. I'm running a 4690K in my current build (though in Newegg's overview it says 4670K, which is still fine). The R7 240 is still on the low end, however. Here's Anandtech's benchmarks of the R7 250.

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Figure out his budget within a reasonable range and work from there. Most of the build is easy to figure out cost-wise. The only variables would be if you want to use an SSD at all and then allocating the remaining funds to the GPU.
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So what about this or this?

Flowette said:
Have fun!

:whee:
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If it were me and my money, I'd seriously think about it, but I haven't bought a new computer in, well, a very long time, and my financial situation is such that I probably won't be even buying a prebuilt system for quite some time. I'm really just serving as an advisor as the family tech guy.

 
I love how when you click-thru on the Weeklong Deals, it sorts by rating.

I don't love how most of my greens are at the bottom.

 
warreni said:
Question for the hardware gurus here.

My brother's interested in replacing his archaic laptop with a newer computer that won't choke on Civ: Beyond Earth (stop sniggering in the back). Would this be a good, cheap replacement that would allow him to run most modern games at a reasonably-good framerate (>30fps)? He does most of his gaming on the PS3/4 but I'd like for him to have the option to run newish PC games for a while too.
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looking at the benchmarks... lol, no.

An integrated 3 year old AMD graphics card benchmarks almost 2x the graphics card in this thing.

 
warreni said:
So what about this or this?


If it were me and my money, I'd seriously think about it, but I haven't bought a new computer in, well, a very long time, and my financial situation is such that I probably won't be even buying a prebuilt system for quite some time. I'm really just serving as an advisor as the family tech guy.
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I just clicked a bunch of stuff, but this is a starting point I guess. At least I'd look for something along those lines. An i5 is all you/he would need. I'd personally go no less than a R7 260X, but that's just my opinion.

 
being a CAG and all. the old dude at staples said they will have i3 towers for under $300 at end of the month. throw a 750ti in that and call it good for reasonable cheap gaming.
 
and assuming there's a free pci-e slot. im just a messenger but I do plan on seeing what they have for a potential Christmas build for my niece.
 
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leaderWON said:
and assuming there's a free pci-e slot. im just a messenger but I do plan on seeing what they have for a potential Christmas build for my niece.
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Yeah, well, I know nothing about the 750 Ti but you do want to be mindful of the space inside the case because if the card is a "double-wide," just having a PCI-e slot won't help you.

Neuro5i5 said:
I just clicked a bunch of stuff, but this is a starting point I guess. At least I'd look for something along those lines. An i5 is all you/he would need. I'd personally go no less than a R7 260X, but that's just my opinion.
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Sounds like that i5 with the 750ti would be a good one for him, then. I appreciate you rooting around on there, but he seriously is not the kind of person who's even going to try to put together his own system.

 
warreni said:
Yeah, well, I know nothing about the 750 Ti but you do want to be mindful of the space inside the case because if the card is a "double-wide," just having a PCI-e slot won't help you.
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yeah your right, I know this but the staples guy isn't even exactly sure of the form factor of the machine. I asked. like I said I'm just a messenger and I'll see what they have when they get them. sorry I wasn't more clear earlier.
 
But seriously, for the casual gamer, look into AMD processors with integrated chips. They're surprisingly good, and extremely cheap compared to i3/i5+discreet GPU.

We have a laptop with an AMD A10 that's 2-3 years old, and it can actually run games fairly well, and was only about $520 at the time. It isn't 1080p though, but it was not ugly by any means.

 
elessar123 said:
But seriously, for the casual gamer, look into AMD processors with integrated chips. They're surprisingly good, and extremely cheap compared to i3/i5+discreet GPU.

We have a laptop with an AMD A10 that's 2-3 years old, and it can actually run games fairly well, and was only about $520 at the time. It isn't 1080p though, but it was not ugly by any means.
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This one's $469.99 with free shipping from TigerDirect
It's a Dell Inspiron 15 AMD A10 7300 Quad-Core 8GB Memory 1TB HDD Radeon R6 15.6" HD 1366 X 768 Notebook Windows 8.1 64-bit with 2GB integrated AMD Radeon™ R6 Graphics

 
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I'm using an i3 + AMD 68xx. I can still play games at 1080 without lowering too much. Still haven't played Evil Within or Mordor, but it works really good with all the games that already reached 75% discount ;)
 
IkedaTeramusa said:
So.. back to Steam threads.. I thought this was an interesting article...
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p.s. that article wasn't interesting ;)

 
IkedaTeramusa said:
Reading an article that over 2/3's of people's investments aren't panning out isn't considered interesting? I'm shocked.
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Like you say, it's an investment and you aren't guaranteed a return on investments. There are risks involved.

The Early Access description on Steam even says "This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development"

 
"Ike said:
Reading an article that over 2/3's of people's investments aren't panning out isn't considered interesting? I'm shocked.
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It's not. Of the nearly 400 games released on early access they chose a sample of just 9 games and pass that off as research? Stomping Grounds went back up for sale a long before this article. Early access is still pretty early in it's life cycle and game development isn't as fast as most people want to think. Sure, there are train wrecks out there and games that will never be finished, but I think that's the exception and not the rule.
 
Preedatore said:
It's not. Of the nearly 400 games released on early access they chose a sample of just 9 games and pass that off as research? Stomping Grounds went back up for sale a long before this article. Early access is still pretty early in it's life cycle and game development isn't as fast as most people want to think. Sure, there are train wrecks out there and games that will never be finished, but I think that's the exception and not the rule.
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You mean The Stomping Lands or The Slaughtering Grounds? I don't see Stomping Grounds on the store.

 
Preedatore said:
It's not. Of the nearly 400 games released on early access they chose a sample of just 9 games and pass that off as research?
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The nine games they're referring to are the original betas that started the Early Access program in March of 2013. Of those original EA titles, first on sale almost two years ago now, only three have been released as full games (ARMA 3, Drunken Robot Pornography, and Starforge). The data shows a huge increase in the number of Early Access games available on Steam, but very few of them ever graduating to a "1.0" release.

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The original article is much better than IGN's summary.

 
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warreni said:
Yeah, well, I know nothing about the 750 Ti but you do want to be mindful of the space inside the case because if the card is a "double-wide," just having a PCI-e slot won't help you.

Sounds like that i5 with the 750ti would be a good one for him, then. I appreciate you rooting around on there, but he seriously is not the kind of person who's even going to try to put together his own system.
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If you don't want to build a PC, maybe a pre-built + a 750 Ti would be best.

Also, the 750 Ti isn't a wide card or long either assuming you get the most common version, it can probably fit in any pre-built. Just get one with only one fan, that's all you need. ( I have this one in my Dell right now. (i5 + 8GB Ram).

I had no experience with building a PC but this card was perfect because all you do is put it in the PCI slot and you don't have to connect power cables or anything.

For Black Friday - Bestbuy will have a Dell i5 with 8GB Ram and it will come with a 24 inch 1080P LED monitor for $499. (I assume he might need a monitor, coming from a laptop, but if not its 429 without the monitor.) Just add a 750 Ti.

slickdeals.net/f/7351540-dell-tower-intel-inside-core-i5-24-led-hd-widescreen-monitor-for-499-98

http://slickdeals.net/f/7351540-dell-tower-intel-inside-core-i5-24-led-hd-widescreen-monitor-for-499-98

My 750 Ti plays Beyond Earth well, although I have to agree with everyone here that its hard to get into. And my Dell runs nearly everything a little better than my PS4, so it should last him the generation if you go the i5 + 750 Ti route.

 
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The Sifu said:
The nine games they're referring to are the original betas that started the Early Access program in March of 2013. Of those original EA titles, first on sale almost two years ago now, only three have been released as full games (ARMA 3, Drunken Robot Pornography, and Starforge). The data shows a huge increase in the number of Early Access games available on Steam, but very few of them ever graduating to a "1.0" release.

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The original article is much better than IGN's summary.
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That IS a much more interesting article, thanks for sharing

 
The Sifu said:
The nine games they're referring to are the original betas that started the Early Access program in March of 2013. Of those original EA titles, first on sale almost two years ago now, only three have been released as full games (ARMA 3, Drunken Robot Pornography, and Starforge). The data shows a huge increase in the number of Early Access games available on Steam, but very few of them ever graduating to a "1.0" release.

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The original article is much better than IGN's summary.
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Yeah, I tried to edit my post about 15 times to mention the linked article was much more informative, but it wasn't working. I still don't think that it's all doom and gloom. I think people are going in with the wrong mentality anyway. Don't buy an early access game based on what they want it to be, buy it based on what it is. If the game isn't in a state that you would currently play it, don't buy it.
 
Speaking of Early Access...

If you bought the Sometimes Tuesday bundle (around June 10th) from Groupees your Steam key for Siege of Inaolia (an Early Access Game) is now available.

:whee:

 
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Preedatore said:
Yeah, I tried to edit my post about 15 times to mention the linked article was much more informative, but it wasn't working. I still don't think that it's all doom and gloom. I think people are going in with the wrong mentality anyway. Don't buy an early access game based on what they want it to be, buy it based on what it is. If the game isn't in a state that you would currently play it, don't buy it.
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This is good advice for any game. I think the only early access I paid for is Prison Architect from a Bundle. They could abandon the project tomorrow and I'd still be very happy with the game.

 
I've bought some decent games from EA but more than anything it's probably worth treating them as a discount pre-order.

Case in point, Dungeon of the Endless. Bought in EA to get a discount (25%) and I liked the look of the previews. The problem was that I was playing it and getting frustrated that it just wasn't all there. It's not the dev's fault, I think I just wanted something that wasn't there.

DotE is a good example of how EA should be done, but yes - it's like you're taunting yourself.

DotE is really, really good by the way. FTL fans should wishlist it NOW.
 
rcsample said:
Are we

NoT

Slidecage?
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Are we not men?

We are DEVO.

JohnHarker said:
For Black Friday - Bestbuy will have a Dell i5 with 8GB Ram and it will come with a 24 inch 1080P LED monitor for $499. (I assume he might need a monitor, coming from a laptop, but if not its 429 without the monitor.) Just add a 750 Ti.

slickdeals.net/f/7351540-dell-tower-intel-inside-core-i5-24-led-hd-widescreen-monitor-for-499-98
http://slickdeals.net/f/7351540-dell-tower-intel-inside-core-i5-24-led-hd-widescreen-monitor-for-499-98
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That's a pretty solid tip. Yes, I'm pretty sure he needs a monitor. I think I'll point him in this direction and mention one of the Newegg systems. Worse comes to worst, I could put the card in for him.
 
Has anyone seen confirmation if Dragon Age: Inquisition from Nuuvem activates trouble-free in the US?  It shows on their site and I know they're usually pretty good about not showing stuff that won't activate based on your IP but I'd hate to point anyone in their direction if it's not going to work.

 
Far Cry 4 looks great, even on medium settings. If you've been wavering on whether to fakeybro cuz you have a crap rig like i do , i think it's still worth it. 

 
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