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Summer sale has come and gone; welcome to the Steam Deals Thread V13!
 
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Daily Deal
Star Wars: Empire at War Gold Edition - $19.99 $6.80

 
Yesterday's Deal

N/A

Midweek Madness
The Legend of Korra - $14.99 $10.04

Red Faction - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction II - $9.99 $1.49
Red Faction Armageddon - $19.99 $2.99
Red Faction Guerrilla - $19.99 $2.99 
 
Thanks to EastX, Detruire, Psydero, and everyone else that has contributed to the thread!

 
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lostnumber said:
Not to mention the first Postal in which the entire purpose of the game is to murder as many people as possible in every level and the last level is the main character attempting to massacre an elementary school but only fails because his mind finally breaks down.
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I'm glad lord Gaben made the call to let it back on.
 
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Bruticis said:
Here's some crap I don't where to dump.

ShinyLoot
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4VEM4-E4WGM-SCEGJ-ACIHO
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55TVE-6JCVN-U1JZY-YG68N
4JNJG-G4CNI-JRLPM-EWB73
531O6-L78NP-J5LUN-UPR79
4BGQM-VXCOM-PEUPN-IVFC2
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I come on three minutes after these are posted.

Every single one of them is gone.

He doesn't have a single "like" on the comment and not a single "thank you".

Sheesh, people.

 
Here's some crap I don't where to dump.

ShinyLoot
4X9U5-WVYEC-OW3YZ-6OEN9
4SENV-3I8EL-T8X3R-1YTB5
4VEM4-E4WGM-SCEGJ-ACIHO
56AKI-56IZS-EMI8F-XS3RG
55TVE-6JCVN-U1JZY-YG68N
4JNJG-G4CNI-JRLPM-EWB73
531O6-L78NP-J5LUN-UPR79
4BGQM-VXCOM-PEUPN-IVFC2

 
warreni said:
Well, unlike the ridiculous complaints about the GTA series, this really does seem like a murder (or more specifically mass murder) simulator. I understand why Valve didn't want to greenlight it and I think it was probably the right thing to do to pull it.
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Any movies, books, music, etc that you would like to see censored also?

 
We all knew this was coming.  Funny that all the Steam white knights were all like "no gaiz it's totes not going to change anything or trades guys, steam love :)" when the process started.

Fun ride while it lasted, sucks that it ended, but I understand.  Got me a ton of games I would have waited a year or two to buy and play otherwise so it was good for me.

Also, voted to Greenlight Hatred.  Hate hate, but hate censorship even more.  

 
This is how I feel after selling off most of my cards right before the end of trading with Russians was announced.

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My take on Hated (FWIW):

The main thing that shocked me when I watched the trailer was the up-close, slow motion killing of innocent people, particularly women.  I probably wouldn't have noticed nearly as much if the camera would have stayed back similar to a Dead Nation type view.

I've never played Postal so I don't know if it had similar close ups during game play.

Is it tasteful?  Probably not.  But there is a lot of shit I have no problem playing that others look at and say "WTF is wrong with you?" 

In the end, I am very much against censorship.  I make a living developing singers and musicians wanting careers in the commercial music industry.  Some artistic people, which includes game developers in my eyes, like to push the envelope.  Sometimes it is for no other reason than to sell something...other times it is because what they have to say truly has substance.  I know I don't want to have to worry about my own clients being subjected to censorship.

I highly doubt I will play it (but I haven't written it off entirely)...but I sure as hell don't want to open THAT can of worms by banning it on Steam.  Once that can is open, who knows what will be next?

 
With GTA being banned from certain store shelves, and now this talk about removing Hatred from Steam, it might be nice if we had a central government agency that tells us what media we can and cannot consume, we can call it the Ministry of Truth or something, I don't know.
 
inm8num2 said:
This is how I feel after selling off most of my cards right before the end of trading with Russians was announced.
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I don't get it what does russian trading have to do with cards? Or will there be a lot fewer cards so they will go up in value (theoretically)? While i'm sure a lot of people do trades I don't think its going to have that huge an impact on the marketplace.

I feel bad, never done a russian trade thingie, always meant to but I get lazy and then the game turns out to come on sale for cheaper price anyways. I assume at this point it is not safe doing any trades for global keys/gifts, since new issued keys will not work if they are not in your region? Still see a lot of sell offers on the neogaf forums.

Feel bad for the ruskie traders doing this, I'm sure it was good money for them, especially since the Ruble seems to be tanking hard right now.

 
Drabelincoln said:
So hotline Miami is ok because it's pixelated?

To me this is just a copy of postal and that's on steam too
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Actually as far as I can tell, Hotline Miami is lukewarm crap, like many indies. What the direct comparison to Hatred is, I have no idea as I've never played it and don't intend to.

lostnumber said:
Not to mention the first Postal in which the entire purpose of the game is to murder as many people as possible in every level and the last level is the main character attempting to massacre an elementary school but only fails because his mind finally breaks down.
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I haven't played the original. I played a little of the second one. I know that Running with Scissors is on record as stating that it's possible to go through the entire game without killing anyone.

INMATEofARKHAM said:
Any movies, books, music, etc that you would like to see censored also?
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I'm not censoring or suggesting that anything be censored. Wow, you guys get your pitchforks sharpened fast over this kind of nonsense.

Just because something doesn't appear on a particular sales platform does not mean that it's censored. It's reasonable for Valve to have some kind of standards for what appears on Steam and, in this instance, I think the first decision (to remove it) was the right one. Clearly someone with some (but not ultimate) authority at Valve felt that the nature of this game violated its content standards. Gabe's statement, quoted earlier, appears to suggest that content standards, like quality standards, are really non-existent at Valve.

wtsutton said:
My take on Hated (FWIW):

The main thing that shocked me when I watched the trailer was the up-close, slow motion killing of innocent people, particularly women. I probably wouldn't have noticed nearly as much if the camera would have stayed back similar to a Dead Nation type view.

I've never played Postal so I don't know if it had similar close ups during game play.

Is it tasteful? Probably not. But there is a lot of shit I have no problem playing that others look at and say "WTF is wrong with you?"

In the end, I am very much against censorship. I make a living developing singers and musicians wanting careers in the commercial music industry. Some artistic people, which includes game developers in my eyes, like to push the envelope. Sometimes it is for no other reason than to sell something...other times it is because what they have to say truly has substance. I know I don't want to have to worry about my own clients being subjected to censorship.

I highly doubt I will play it (but I haven't written it off entirely)...but I sure as hell don't want to open THAT can of worms by banning it on Steam. Once that can is open, who knows what will be next?
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This is a slippery slope argument. Most forums have content standards, and by large measure, this is no different. Would people be deeply offended by the idea of rejecting a game from Steam if all of the people being shot and killed in the game were black or Hispanic or female? Certain ideas perhaps don't need to be promoted. Refusing to promote such things is not equivalent to censoring them. In the U.S., we allow a lot of what many would term "hate speech," but we sure as hell don't have to like it.

This game appears to be a misanthropic would-be mass murderer's wet dream in much the same way as Super Columbine Massacre RPG. As such, its redeeming value is slim to none.

 
So I bid gems on something that wasn't bundle crap and actually won the auction. $14.65 in wallet credit got me a copy of Dreamfall Chapters.  Given that it's part of my favorite PC series of all time, it hasn't even been under $25, and I intend to make it my 1000th game (970 now) and play it right after that, I doubt there will be any buyer's remorse at not waiting for 75% or bundle.

If you're wondering, the final gem cost was 13900 and I just bought fourteen gem sacks straight up when I saw that the current bid was 13100.  You could probably get it for a bit cheaper if you're patient enough to wait out a ten cent buy order for 140 CS:GO backgrounds and scrap them.  Or if you already have gems lying around.

EDIT: And I just realized that despite not saying so anywhere before I won it, it's the special edition with the artbook and other extras.  They should probably mention that on the auction page.

 
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warreni said:
Actually as far as I can tell, Hotline Miami is lukewarm crap, like many indies. What the direct comparison to Hatred is, I have no idea as I've never played it and don't intend to.

I haven't played the original. I played a little of the second one. I know that Running with Scissors is on record as stating that it's possible to go through the entire game without killing anyone.

I'm not censoring or suggesting that anything be censored. Wow, you guys get your pitchforks sharpened fast over this kind of nonsense.

Just because something doesn't appear on a particular sales platform does not mean that it's censored. It's reasonable for Valve to have some kind of standards for what appears on Steam and, in this instance, I think the first decision (to remove it) was the right one. Clearly someone with some (but not ultimate) authority at Valve felt that the nature of this game violated its content standards. Gabe's statement, quoted earlier, appears to suggest that content standards, like quality standards, are really non-existent at Valve.

This is a slippery slope argument. Most forums have content standards, and by large measure, this is no different. Would people be deeply offended by the idea of rejecting a game from Steam if all of the people being shot and killed in the game were black or Hispanic or female? Certain ideas perhaps don't need to be promoted. Refusing to promote such things is not equivalent to censoring them. In the U.S., we allow a lot of what many would term "hate speech," but we sure as hell don't have to like it.

This game appears to be a misanthropic would-be mass murderer's wet dream in much the same way as Super Columbine Massacre RPG. As such, its redeeming value is slim to none.
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Like anything else, as an adult, one can simply choose not to consume entertainment that they find distasteful. However restricting the ability of others to consume the entertainment they choose is wrong. Plain and simple.

I do wish Valve would regulate the quality of the content they allow on Steam, but subject matter should not figure in to that evaluation. In fact any such quality judgment would be subjective to a large degree, and I expect that the market, ratings system and reviews would allow for consumers to make informed decisions, and the low quality content would result in fewer purchases.

Hotline Miami was really enjoyable. You do yourself a disservice by not giving it a try. Unless you find the subject matter distasteful.

 
warreni said:
I'm not censoring or suggesting that anything be censored. Wow, you guys get your pitchforks sharpened fast over this kind of nonsense.

Just because something doesn't appear on a particular sales platform does not mean that it's censored. It's reasonable for Valve to have some kind of standards for what appears on Steam and, in this instance, I think the first decision (to remove it) was the right one.
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I don't have any real opinion on whether or not Hatred should be on Greenlight but I agree that people are too quick to jump to some Orwellian dystopia each time a game (or other media piece) loses a distribution channel. On the day that the developer is barred from selling the game directly, I'll consider it "censored". The fact that some companies may choose not to provide a platform for a game/song/film is not the same as censoring it.

You're allowed to say what you want but no one else is obligated to facilitate you saying it.

 
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Syntax Error said:
I don't have any real opinion on whether or not Hatred should be on Greenlight but I agree that people are too quick to jump to some Orwellian dystopia each time a game (or other media piece) loses a distribution channel. On the day that the developer is barred from selling the game directly, I'll consider it "censored". The fact that some companies may choose not to provide a platform for a game/song/film is not the same as censoring it.

You're allowed to say what you want but no one else is obligated to facilitate you saying it.
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To be fair, it's Steam or nothing for a lot of people.

When was the last time you played something out of your Desura backlog?

 
wtsutton said:
Loved Hotline Miami. Played it on the Vita.

Like I said...the main thing about the Hatred trailer that shocked me was the up-close, slow motion killings of innocent women.

I still might give it a shot though.

No pun intended.
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How do you know they are innocent, they are after all human worms feasting on the earths corpse.

And nice edit ;)
 
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Well, finally won my first auction (Cinemaware Collection)

So, I put in a few more buy orders on gems and managed to get a few 1,000 bundles for well less than the market rate.  (One at .12, another at .49) 

With some of these I should be able to get a few more games that I've been looking for for decent prices, and all using the Steam credit I've had in my account for a while.   

Nice to see that there are some deals to be had with this auction as it starts to wind down.  

 
Cheaplikeafox OS X said:
We all knew this was coming. Funny that all the Steam white knights were all like "no gaiz it's totes not going to change anything or trades guys, steam love :)" when the process started.

Fun ride while it lasted, sucks that it ended, but I understand. Got me a ton of games I would have waited a year or two to buy and play otherwise so it was good for me.

Also, voted to Greenlight Hatred. Hate hate, but hate censorship even more.
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Trading isn't dead. Americans can trade games to those goofy austrailians that have overpriced MSRP on everything.

For once.. americans will profit!

 
GauRocks said:
To be fair, it's Steam or nothing for a lot of people.

When was the last time you played something out of your Desura backlog?
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Syntax Error said:
If a consumer wants to limit themselves, that's on them.
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Plus those are the people that +1 and forget about it anyway. If they really want a game they will make an exception. If they are just mildly curious or 'Oh that looks interesting I'll buy it while it's cheap and maybe get around to trying it one day but I won't' then yes it's Steam or GTFO.

I mean there's the occasional Origin game I will buy because I really want it and will play it even though I would have preferred to have it on Steam. I may even buy a *gasp* DRM free game if I want it enough. Hell I was curious enough to buy Seduce Me. Nevermind that I still backlogged it. :p

Anyway, they can still put it in a bundle and then the Steam or GTFO crow will +1 it without even trying. That's pretty much how indie games even on Steam are having to resort to for income these days. The vast majority of indies aren't getting noticed with the volume of them getting in so more and more you notice these devs putting their games in bundles soon after Steam release. Steam isn't really not the land of milk and honey anymore for indies.

 
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I going to be the typical American here...

I think that Hatred shouldn't be on Steam.

I also don't know what Hatred is, haven't payed any attention to what the Greenlight process is because indies blow, and cannot find my pants.

Why would someone steal my pants?

 
[quote name="Drabelincoln" post="12335936" timestamp="1418832066"]I am so thank me when its bundled.[/quote]
I definitely won't wait until HM2 gets bundled. Just a decent deal, is a game I'll play right away
 
[quote name="Drabelincoln" post="12335936" timestamp="1418832066"]I am so thank me when its bundled.[/quote]
I definitely won't wait until HM2 gets bundled. Just a decent deal, is a game I'll play right away
 
warreni said:
I'm not censoring or suggesting that anything be censored. Wow, you guys get your pitchforks sharpened fast over this kind of nonsense.

Just because something doesn't appear on a particular sales platform does not mean that it's censored. It's reasonable for Valve to have some kind of standards for what appears on Steam and, in this instance, I think the first decision (to remove it) was the right one. Clearly someone with some (but not ultimate) authority at Valve felt that the nature of this game violated its content standards. Gabe's statement, quoted earlier, appears to suggest that content standards, like quality standards, are really non-existent at Valve.
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In this day and age a game not being on steam is all but censorship for the PC platform... It might not be de facto censorship but for all tense and purposes it is. Its also likely a death sentence for the developer. Which is holy unfair, not that life ever really is, when you consider the Rockstar products, and other developers, on Steam that let you do the same.

Flowette said:
Before I get all judgemental, can somebody please explain the differences between Postal and Hatred.
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Postal is sort for American slang for "Going Postal" and is pretty much linked to incidents that happened in the US between 1996-1997 when USPS (United States Postal Service) employes shot up their work places... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal (20 plus incidents happened.)

Postal, the video game came out in the height of this, in 1987... I would say Postal is more offensive.

 
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All this talk over a bullshit game that's running on nothing but the controversial fumes tag. The game is going to be garbage but I look forward to the +1 for $1 if it ever sees the light of day.

 
INMATEofARKHAM said:
In this day and age a game not being on steam is all but censorship for the PC platform... It might not be de facto censorship but for all tense and purposes it is. Its also likely a death sentence for the developer. Which is holy unfair, not that life ever really is, when you consider the Rockstar products, and other developers, on Steam that let you do the same.


Postal is sort for American slang for "Going Postal" and is pretty much linked to incidents that happened in the US between 1996-1997 when USPS (United States Postal Service) employes shot up their work places... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal (20 plus incidents happened.)

Postal, the video game came out in the height of this, in 1987... I would say Postal is more offensive.
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I'm sorry, but I don't buy your argument: one platform or store refusing to sell a product is not censorship. A government banning distribution of a product is censorship. Maybe now you see the difference? In any case, all I can say about the product in question or any other offensive product not being sold on Steam in particular is that the developers of such products definitely know what they're making. They should expect that there may be market repercussions as a consequence. Frankly, if a developer doesn't understand this fairly fundamental tenet of running a business, then maybe they need some sort of wake-up call to acknowledge that these kinds of decisions do have genuine consequences.

As regards Postal, yeah, I meant to say a few more things about that in hindsight. Take a close look at the tone and content of the Postal games. If you're seriously going to argue that Postal is exactly equivalent to Hatred, then you'd have to lump in GTA and Saints Row and pretty much any other kind of shooter.

But the reality is that there is a difference: read the description of Hatred again. Does it look like this is a world that has room for giant purple dildoes or demons from Hell that just happen to be on Mars or cat guns or a maniacal Gary Coleman or guys riding on nuclear missiles? These games are clearly absurdist fantasies. I can make the same argument that people make about this when genuine censorship of GTA comes up in conversation: no one is going to play three hours of GTA and then go out and rob a convenience store, stab a hooker, and carjack a random passerby because this isn't how people's brains actually work. We can distinguish between reality and fantasy (well, people with normally-functioning brains can). I also doubt that anyone's going to play Hatred and then go shoot up a shopping mall or a school or a park or a restaurant. But it's still pretty f*cking terrible and I don't think anyone should pretend otherwise.

Drabe and HM proponents: No, I don't like a lot of popular games like Hotline Miami, JRPGs, and numerous platform games (I may play Fez one day, maybe). That doesn't mean they're terrible games in any kind of objective sense (whatever that really means), but it does mean they're probably not for me.

 
You kids prolly don't remember but back in the day there was this movie called Showgirls.. the entire purpose of it was to show Jessie from Saved by the Bell naked.  That was it.  NC-17 was slapped on there.    

Back then, a bunch of theaters in the area chose not to show said movie.  They didn't want to deal with the fall out from the movie itself nor deal with possible consequences if some kid "snuck" into the movie theater to see it.

That's not censorship.  For the same reason, Steam choosing not to carry it.  That being said, there's a bunch of games of questionable taste that I've never bothered to argue about.  I don't expect the lines I draw to be the same that others would draw.  

Steam just needs to make sure that if they carry the game, they're willing to accept the eventual public outcry.  You know that some group out there is going to call out Steam as a bunch of baby-killers because they're helping to get this game made.  GabeN thinks he's willing to make it... good for him.  I personally won't buy it either way.

(now that I have read up, I find that I don't particularly care one way or the other as I won't buy the game..... but you guys wanted my opinion... nay.. needed my opinion on the subject) :p

 
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IkedaTeramusa said:
You kids prolly don't remember but back in the day there was this movie called Strip tease... the entire purpose of it was to show Jessie from Saved by the Bell naked. That was it. NC-17 was slapped on there. At one point Lisa from Saved by the Bell got violated.

Back then, a bunch of theaters in the area chose not to show said movie. They didn't want to deal with the fall out from the movie itself nor deal with possible consequences if some kid "snuck" into the movie theater to see it.
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You stop talking smack on Striptease RIGHT NOW!!!! That movie was awesome!!!

 
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